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Greatest Hits: My Prerogative

Greatest Hits: My Prerogative

4 articles

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"My Prerogative"

Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (video)

"Do Somethin'"

"I've Just Begun (Having My Fun)"

I am nominating this for a good topic because I think it meets the criteria. The four articles are GA. Xwomanizerx (talk) 06:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I see no major issues. So, it's a support from me Novice7 ^(Talk) 07:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is an album and like all albums every song on the album that has a Wikipedia article on them need to included in the topic. I do not believe that since this is a greatest hits album, only the new singles need to be included. Zginder 2010-11-10T23:02Z (UTC)
- Celebration (Madonna album) is a good topic, and as this one, includes the album, its two singles and a video collection. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - What do you know, there is precedence. I still think it is the wrong decision. It is called a greatest hits album, so in order to fully discuss the topic, the greatest hits should be discussed. Zginder 2010-11-11T03:25Z (UTC)
    - I nominated that topic for removal. Nergaal (talk) 21:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Absolutely no reason not to promote.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:48, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose For an album, any song that has an article needs to be included. Courcelles 20:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ I've Just Begun (Having My Fun) is missed. All songs on it not need to be included because this is a compilation, but all the new songs released or included must be added. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 22:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yet "It's So Cool" was a new song in Celebration, does not have an article and you supported the nomination. Xwomanizerx (talk) 00:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because it has no article? Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 02:06, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And what's your point? Both fail WP:NSONG, there shouldn't be an article for "I've Just Begun (Having My Fun)" at all. Xwomanizerx (talk) 02:31, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My point is that in a compilation album all new songs, if have articles, must be included on the FTC, older songs are not included. That's the point. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 04:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - perhaps you could remove Greatest Hits: My Prerogative (video) and rename the topic "Singles from Greatest Hits: My Prerogative", then I believe it could be a topic, otherwise it fails criteria 1d. CrowzRSA 00:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ - if one of the new songs from this album, I've Just Begun (Having My Fun), has an article then it needs to be in here. Saying that it doesn't meet the notability guidelines is no excuse- the article still exists. Get it deleted/merged or get it added. --Pres N 02:48, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - now that it is a GA, my concerns are addressed. --Pres N 01:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- AfD on that article was closed as "non consensus" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: When the merge discussion is finalized, note it here, and we'll proceed with the GT accordingly. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The merge discussion reached no consensus again, so after nominating "I've Just Begun (Having My Fun)" it's now GA. Xwomanizerx (talk) 05:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - of course, it could be expanded to include all the old songs, but new songs is sufficient to pass 1d. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I would like to see a change in precedent, especially as we only have one greatest hits topic already. It doesn't really make sense to omit the hits. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the topic needs to include all 19 songs as each of them have articles. A topic called "Greatest hits" should contain actually all the hits. Nergaal (talk) 21:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Nergaal --Admrboltz (talk) 22:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This should not be considered a complete topic unless all of the songs on the album that are notable enough to have articles are at least GA status, not just the new songs on the album. A person reading this topic would want to learn about all of the songs on the album, not just the new ones. –Grondemar 07:09, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Close with no consensus to promote. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:43, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]