Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Psychoactive drug/archive1
This article discusses a frequently debated a biased topic in modern society. The article is well organized, allowing an average reader to understand its context. The article is also mostly well cited. --GoOdCoNtEnT 18:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support because it is a well-written, concise article with good graphics and navigational tools built into the article (especially the .png venn diagram--good job!!). Gives just enough information for someone to understand the topic without knowing much before hand. Well-structured.
- As just a few random examples, I could not find fluvoxamine, pimozide, ziprasidone, tiapride or sulpiride on the chart. Either they're not there, or they're not easy to find.Sandy 03:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Object mainly for the whole bunch of {{citation needed}}s. The article's lists (mainly Ways psychoactive drugs affect the brain) should be converted to prose. Also, about the headings, see WP:MOS#Headings - if possible, avoid repeated the title of an article in a heading. Andy t 21:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Object I don't think the article meets any of the criteria, but I object mostly on poor referencing, with possible NPOV. Not only are there many citation needed tags, but there are almost no references to actual journal-published medical research, and the reference list seems to indicate bias. The article is not comprehensive or medical in tone. Sandy 22:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I just replaced the diagram/chart with a new version, and added the above mentioned substances (I didn't add tiapride as there's no wikipedia article on it). While I agree the article isn't ready for featured article status, I think that the diagram is ready for featured picture status, as it was up for nomination before, and I believe that it now meets all the requirements. On a side note, another article to keep an eye on for future featured article status is the Psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants article. (Formerly known as the Hallucinogens article). --Thoric 18:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Just because tiapride is not yet included in Wikipedia is not a reason to leave if off a chart if you want it be featured. When writing a medical article, you should not be using Wiki as your source. Still, there is not a single PMID reference in your article. Another problem with your image is that it does not have a global view, and is biased towards drugs available in the US, leaving out drugs like tiapride. I can't be sure of what else you left off, as that was only a random check. Your article, and graph, needs to be better referenced with medical sources. For example, I'm not sure if atomoxetine should or should not be on your list. I would need to see a medical reference. I found a group of pharmacists once somewhere on Wiki, although I can't recall where. I suggest that you dig them up and enlist their help in your article. Sandy 19:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- The chart is not meant to be a complete list of psychoactive substances, only a list of common psychoactives and how they relate to each other. There are references at the bottom of the page for sources to placement of items on the chart. --Thoric 22:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Atomoxetine (Strattera) is common. Sandy 22:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Here is the group where you might be able to enlist help with improving the article: Wikipedia:WikiProject Drugs Sandy 00:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Atomoxetine (Strattera) is common. Sandy 22:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've put in a request, but still waiting for response. I also added a bunch of references to take care of some of the missing citation tags, as well as added a few more substances and categories to the chart. Currently the chart itself specifies three pieces of reference material. I'm not sure how many references are required, or if it would please the editors for the list of article references to exceed the content of the article, but I could certainly add more as needed. --Thoric 20:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- The chart is not meant to be a complete list of psychoactive substances, only a list of common psychoactives and how they relate to each other. There are references at the bottom of the page for sources to placement of items on the chart. --Thoric 22:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Just because tiapride is not yet included in Wikipedia is not a reason to leave if off a chart if you want it be featured. When writing a medical article, you should not be using Wiki as your source. Still, there is not a single PMID reference in your article. Another problem with your image is that it does not have a global view, and is biased towards drugs available in the US, leaving out drugs like tiapride. I can't be sure of what else you left off, as that was only a random check. Your article, and graph, needs to be better referenced with medical sources. For example, I'm not sure if atomoxetine should or should not be on your list. I would need to see a medical reference. I found a group of pharmacists once somewhere on Wiki, although I can't recall where. I suggest that you dig them up and enlist their help in your article. Sandy 19:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)