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List of heads of government of Liechtenstein

Nominator(s): TheBritinator (talk) 14:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the past year I have worked to improve this list to it's fullest potential by filling a great deal of the biographies, images and accurate information. While my work is not quite done, and may not be for a while, I believe this article fits the FL criteria in recognition of my efforts. TheBritinator (talk) 14:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Lead is too short and should be expanded
"The head of government [....] is the title of the head of government" - this wording is quite clumsy.
If the title of the head of government is "head of government", where does the title "prime minister" fit in?
"Provincial administrator (1861–1921)" - if the translation of the German title is "state administrator", why is the heading "provincial administrator"?
In the Provincial administrator (1861–1921) table, why are there dashes not numbers against two of them?
Why are two of the cells in the first column of that table coloured?
"Prime Minister (1921–present)" - why is this the heading if the title of the post is "head of government"?
In this section, why do some of the rows not have numbers in the first column?
Why are some of those cells coloured?
Why do some of the rows have a buff-coloured background?
In the Deputy head of government table, what does FBP stand for? VP? VU?
Why is there a dagger against Nigg's date of leaving office?
There's only one ref in each of the first two sections - does each ref really source everything in each section?
There are no refs at all in the Deputy head section
Ref 1 has an "author" of "www 20minuten ch, 20 Minuten, 20 Min, www.20min.ch", which obviously isn't the name of the person who wrote it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright noted, those are mostly left before my time and untouched by myself, but I can get to work on that no problem. As for the "dagger", it's a cross to indicate death in office, I didn't add it, but I've also seen similar things done is contemporary articles so I paid no bother to it, could be made into a note instead however. The two administrator's with dashes were due to them being provisional or unofficial, this could also be made into a note if nessesary.TheBritinator (talk) 01:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude I have attempted to address most of the things you have pointed out, may you give an updated opinion? Thanks. TheBritinator (talk) 15:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MPGuy2824

"The head of government of Liechtenstein (German: Regierungschef), or informally as Prime Minister is the" Seems weird, maybe "The head of government of Liechtenstein (German: Regierungschef), known informally as the Prime Minister is the" works better.
"It is appointed by the sovereign". I think "They are appointed by the sovereign" works a bit better.
"the Landtag of Liechtenstein and is to command the confidence of both the prince and Landtag." "should command" or "is expected to command" works a bit better.
"but is not required to be a member of the Landtag themselves, only eligible." to "but is not required to be a member of the Landtag themselves, although they should meet the eligibility requirements for that office." or "although they have the same eligibility requirements for that office", depending on which is more accurate. Also, add a ref for this.
All tables need to have captions. Use the sronly template, if you think it isn't appropriate to show the caption.
The table in the "Deputy head of government" section could have the name column converted into a row header.
The use of the phrase "born-died" isn't consistent across the tables. Is this phrase even needed. Please look at a few recent-ish FLs on a similar theme and use what is used there.
The Monarch column in the PM section isn't the most important one and shouldn't be the row header. Maybe the name column
That's all I got for now. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some problems still remain:
- The monarch column is still a header in the List of PMs.
- In some tables the political parties have their colors next to them, while some don't. This should be consistent across the whole page.
- In the list of deputy PMs, one of the "Independent" cells doesn't not have the right color which matches the other similar cells. You can consider using the Template:Full party name with color to keep colors consistent.
- The first table says "born-died", while the other two say "Birth-Death" -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:54, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! rowspan=2| {{abbr|No.|Number}} becomes !scope=col rowspan=2| {{abbr|No.|Number}}. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | bgcolor="{{party color|Independent politician}}" |'''1''' becomes !scope=row bgcolor="{{party color|Independent politician}}" |'''1'''. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --Pres N 03:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN I have taken the time to add these things as you have recommended. In addition, I have fixed most of the wording and citations that were pointed to me by @MPGuy2824. May you verify that I have done this correctly? I believe I have as I checked other recent FLs, but I would like to make sure. Thanks. TheBritinator (talk) 14:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You missed a couple things, which I've fixed. --Pres N 01:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. TheBritinator (talk) 15:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheBritinator: are you still pursuing this nomination? It appears that not all of MPGuy2824's concerns have been addressed (I just fixed one, but the monarch column is still erroneously a header (! instead of |). @ChrisTheDude: Do you intend to return to re-check your review? --Pres N 14:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PresN: - apologies, I have been away on holiday. I will endeavour to take another look -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am yes, I was waiting for further input. I can take another look at those fixes. TheBritinator (talk) 17:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"They are appointed [...] and is expected" - this doesn't seem to work grammatically
"a new constitution was ratified in which the office was replaced by Prime Minister." => "a new constitution was ratified in which the office was replaced by that of Prime Minister."
"The incumbent Prime Minister is Daniel Risch since 25 March 2021" => "The incumbent Prime Minister is Daniel Risch, who has held the post since 25 March 2021"
"a elected assembly" => "an elected assembly"
"The council and role of district administrator lasted from 23 May 1849 to 20 July 1852 when it was abolished by Aloys II" - the council and role of administrator are two things, so "it was abolished" doesn't work grammatically
No explanation for buff-coloured background of e.g. Feger. I thought it related to their being acting heads, but there is at least one acting head not coloured in this way
"Defunct from 1936." - this isn't a complete sentence so shouldn't have a full stop.
Is there a particular reason why the head of govt tables have a "time in office" column but the deputy head one doesn't? And the former have the party after the dates but the latter has it before the dates? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the last one – I would like to structure it similarly to the other tables, but to be honest, I don't really know how it works. I have tried. TheBritinator (talk) 12:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, this nomination has been open for a long time without any support. In order to keep the queue manageable, I'm going to have to close it. Feel free to renominate it in the future; things that have helped nominations get more/quicker reviews in the past include advertising the nomination to likely editors and wikiprojects, as well as mentioning it when reviewing other FLC nominations. --Pres N 16:30, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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