Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster (L)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 15:01, 8 July 2011 [1].

Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster (L)[edit]

Featured list candidates/Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster (L)/archive1

Nominator(s): — KV5 • Talk • 13:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current open nomination has three supports and no open comments. As always, concerns to be expediently addressed. We're past the halfway point (this is list 10 of 18 in the series). — KV5 • Talk • 13:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - thought I'd take this opportunity to learn a bit about how to read baseball stats!

How can I discover that "Lush also made more than 30% of his career appearances with Philadelphia as a first baseman," from ref 22 please? It's not a challenge to your statement, more assistance to a non-expert (me) on how to find that out from the ref.
Lajoie has 1896 to 1900, isn't that five seasons? His caption says four seasons.

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ironic that the answer to question 1 is math, while the problem with question 2 is that I can't do it.

I've fixed LaJoie. As to Lush, it's a simple math problem, just requiring some addition and then division, as well as knowing where to look. On Lush's page at Baseball-Reference, there is a table entitled "Standard Fielding", which lists games played by position in each season. From 1904 through the midpoint of 1907 (all the portions labeled PHI for Philadelphia), Lush played in 64 games at first base (62 in 1904 and 2 in 1906), 54 games at pitcher (7 in '04, 2 in '05, 37 in '06, and 8 in '07), and the rest in the outfield.

The games at each outfield position are designated in the second "G" column of that table (to the right) as, for example, "0-6-16", meaning 0 games in left field (the leftmost number), 6 in center field, and 16 in right field. In sum, Lush played 51 games in right field and 11 games in center field for the Phillies. 64 1B, 54 P, 51 RF, and 11 CF equals 180 total games; 64/180 = 35.5%, and 54/180 = 30%. As per the footnote, "players are listed at a position if they appeared in 30% of their games or more during their Phillies career", so even though Lush played almost as many games in right field as he did at pitcher, he didn't break the bright-line criterion (there are very few players who break the line at three positions), and his contributions on the pitcher's mound were arguably greater due to the no-hitter he threw.

If I've jargoned you out, let me know. — KV5 • Talk • 01:43, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's fine, it's clearly not straight-forward for us non-experts! Support. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Didn't spot any issues with this list. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. My only nitpick would be that Lopata's image doesn't synch width-wise with the others. Not sure if that's cause for removal. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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