Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Coconut

Illustration of a coconut tree (Cocos nucifera)

Reason: Very encyclopediac, and it looks extremely clear and detailed.
Articles this image appears in: Coconut
Creator: Koehler's Medicinal-Plants. 1887

Support as nominator Juliancolton ^{The storm still blows...} 20:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Small as per FP criteria, could a higher resolution version be found? -- atropos235 ✄ (blah blah, my past) 21:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I found this. Bewareofdog 22:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Pretty small. ^8thstar 01:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close Does not meet FP criteria for size. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 02:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Declined. We've found a bigger version. Does anyone want to restore it? MER-C 05:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suspend - I've ordered a reprint of this book, so a much better version that hopefully won't need restored will be available soon. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 06:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, that could take a while (i.e., more than the week this will be up here). Does the nominator want to withdraw the nom pending Shoemaker's scan, or wait for a restoration of the Beware one? --jjron (talk) 07:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I should (in theory) have it in a couple days. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The other question is: is this 1887 (or so) drawing still considering scientifically accurate? I know nothing about coconuts, but a modern illustration could work just as well. We also have no idea how big the original drawing is (do we?), so the current digital image might not be a whole lot smaller than is possible. However, I'll abstain until Shoemaker'sHoliday puts up his new version.--HereToHelp ^{(talk to me)} 13:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are some advantages to illustrations that photos may not have - stages of the plant's life, e.g. flowers, fruit, and seedlings, that do not normally occur at the same time can be collected together. That said, one could reasonably expect Köhler to be less accurate in his illustrations of tropical plants than ones that are native to Germany or even Eurasia. The trunk looks bizarrely spindly if you ask me. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re HereToHelp, refer to similar comments made on this nom, I believe by the same illustrator. I think the same considerations apply here, and would tend to oppose unless convinced otherwise. Re Shoemaker, my immediate impression was also that the trunk looked entirely unrealistic; I doubt this tree would be standing up to any tropical storms. I'm more interested in it being scientifically accurate than it being an attractive old drawing. --jjron (talk) 15:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Can we have a scale there?--Svetovid (talk) 14:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree that the trunk is much too spindly (and the leaves much too bushy). Doesn't look like any coconut palm I've ever seen. Compare to Image:Cocos nucifera-01.jpg and Image:Coconut harvest.jpg. Mangostar (talk) 17:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Question - does that particular image have any historical significance, the first European depiction, famous author, etc? Guest9999 (talk) 20:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The author and the book are famous and significant - I believe the book's article is on the Vital articles list or some sort of list in that line - I have flu. I don't have to research. Bah! . However, as I said, I wouldn't trust them on tropicals. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 06:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]