Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Lolotte and Werther by Eunice Pinney
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- Reason
- Interesting work by an interesting woman. Eunice Pinney was one of the first American artists to work in the medium of watercolor. This is fairly typical of her work - a shade more elaborate, perhaps than some of her others, but not by much. It'd be nice to get some American folk art on the front page, also.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Eunice Pinney
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
- Creator
- Eunice Pinney, digitized by the National Gallery of Art
- Support as nominator – Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Since I encouraged you to nominate this, I don't think you'll be surprised I Support. Notable artist, in an under-represented genre. Being a bit more elabourate is arguably a plus, insofar as it gives more of the artist's techniques. Think there's room for it in The Sorrows of Young Werther? [1] identifies it as a scene from that. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.6% of all FPs 04:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Adam Cuerden: Possibly - I'd given it some thought. I may throw it in there tomorrow, although there are better options for it. Speaking of...I may have found her source...or something based on her source, at least. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:24, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- That article I linked mentions her source: "Lolotte et Werther depicts a scenefrom Goethe's popular novel The Sorrows of Young Werther, for which Pinney apparently relied on an engraving (or some derivation thereof) by French artist F. Bonnefoy." That kind of thing was pretty common at the time, and probably more so in folk art. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.6% of all FPs 04:29, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, absolutely. Still is with a lot of folk artists, only they've replaced engravings with movies and TV shows. Henry Darger, for example. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- I thought Darger used illustrations and cut them up into collages? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.6% of all FPs 05:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- If memory serves (and it may not, it's been a while since I've read about him), he did, but he also traced images from advertising and used them as the basis for some of his figures. I think he may have developed an enlarger tool to aid himself in the process as well. Another example (I'd have cited him earlier, but I didn't believe there was an article): Justin McCarthy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:53, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- I thought Darger used illustrations and cut them up into collages? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.6% of all FPs 05:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, absolutely. Still is with a lot of folk artists, only they've replaced engravings with movies and TV shows. Henry Darger, for example. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- That article I linked mentions her source: "Lolotte et Werther depicts a scenefrom Goethe's popular novel The Sorrows of Young Werther, for which Pinney apparently relied on an engraving (or some derivation thereof) by French artist F. Bonnefoy." That kind of thing was pretty common at the time, and probably more so in folk art. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.6% of all FPs 04:29, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 18:25, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support – Bammesk (talk) 16:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support. High-quality reproduction of work by a notable artist, used as the lead image for her article. Among the works we have by the artist, this is a good choice to feature, both because of the execution of the work itself (the falling skater in the picture-in-picture!) and because of the quality of the image as a reproduction (high resolution, very sharp, with no unnecessary matting). —David Eppstein (talk) 05:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: She has been referred to as a notable artist, but her page receives an average of 1 view per day. We may wish her to be notable, but apparently in the grand scheme, she isn't. - HappyWaldo (talk) 23:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, page views are a bad way to judge notability. It gets way too much recentism into the mix. Especially as POTD is as much educational as celebratory. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.5% of all FPs 01:57, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- I understand your points, but this artist is really beyond the margins in art historical terms, and still a virtual unknown in an age of intense revisionism in favour of women artists. - HappyWaldo (talk) 12:46, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, page views are a bad way to judge notability. It gets way too much recentism into the mix. Especially as POTD is as much educational as celebratory. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.5% of all FPs 01:57, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support Geoffroi (talk) 04:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Promoted File:Lolotte and Werther by Eunice Pinney.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 10:39, 17 May 2019 (UTC)