Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Bleeding Through/1
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I have been aware of this article for some time, but have been reluctant to bring it forward to GAR. It is the last surviving music-related A-Class article, is a band I enjoy listening to, and for a while I believed I could save it. Alas, it has caught the attention of the community, and I believe that the time has come to restore it or delist.
When I was new to Wikipedia 10 years ago, this article was in good shape, and the band broke up only months into my time as a Wikipedian. Time has not treated the band's article kindly; they faded into obscurity while inactive, then regrouped and never really regained the spotlight, and consequently, proper care on Wikipedia. The GA nominator has been retired some 15 years.
The main concerns initially brought forward were lack of sourcing (2c), unreliable sourcing (2b), and a lead that's too short (1b). I personally that the article's breadth of coverage is suspect in its current state (3a), but the previous issues I would agree are the primary issues.
I believe this can be saved with some work, but I am probably too busy to do it alone in a reasonable amount of time, and would welcome any who are interested in assisting me. Also @Z1720: here we go. Sorry, been a very very very busy week. mftp dan oops 23:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Update: the prose in this article is, at times, less than satisfactory, but I am up to the task. mftp dan oops 22:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have made a significant improvement to the lead. It is not quite what I'd consider ideal, as I need to read the rest of the article, but I took some notes from the original GA version (yes, believe it or not that old piece of 2007 junk helped) and it's certainly not as bad before. mftp dan oops 00:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Delist. Not a fan of the overlong and confusing prose, and that line in lead about being a "band to watch" in 2004 really makes them look like a former hype band. I think it has the groundworks to become a good article (you could try speedrunning??) and has plenty of citations to work with, but as it is now, it's pretty bad. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was supposed to comment but accidently delisted it
Facepalm sorry // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- All good, I think (?) I reverted all the script edits that were made in light of the accident. Give me a week and let me see what I can do. I know it needs work, but I think I can handle it if I adjust my editing focus. If I can't get it by then, we can proceed to delist. mftp dan oops 15:21, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Chchcheckit: Do you remember when we worked together on Until the End (Kittie album) and there was a really old reference I couldn't make display anything, and then you did something to fix it? How did you do that? There's a very very old reference from the band's original label in here, and it's a longshot but I'd like to ask if you remember what you did. Worth a shot. mftp dan oops 01:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which one Chchcheckit (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remember when you changed Metal Exiles to make it appear different? I never really figured out how you did what you did, and on the offchance of a miracle I hoped I could do whatever that was here. mftp dan oops 02:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, do you think we could extend this if I keep up my efforts? Progress is going steady this week, but I have to be realistic about my work schedule. I think I'd probably only need until midweek next week at the absolute worst. mftp dan oops 03:58, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- No I mean link the source Chchcheckit (talk) 11:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oh the one in this article? I was wondering if there was any way we could make this show anything of value. Evidently it did some 17 years ago. mftp dan oops 16:01, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that can be fixed. The difference was a separate URL copy/print version with Metal Exiles, whereas this is just borked in general. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oh the one in this article? I was wondering if there was any way we could make this show anything of value. Evidently it did some 17 years ago. mftp dan oops 16:01, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- No I mean link the source Chchcheckit (talk) 11:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, do you think we could extend this if I keep up my efforts? Progress is going steady this week, but I have to be realistic about my work schedule. I think I'd probably only need until midweek next week at the absolute worst. mftp dan oops 03:58, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remember when you changed Metal Exiles to make it appear different? I never really figured out how you did what you did, and on the offchance of a miracle I hoped I could do whatever that was here. mftp dan oops 02:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which one Chchcheckit (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Chchcheckit: Do you remember when we worked together on Until the End (Kittie album) and there was a really old reference I couldn't make display anything, and then you did something to fix it? How did you do that? There's a very very old reference from the band's original label in here, and it's a longshot but I'd like to ask if you remember what you did. Worth a shot. mftp dan oops 01:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- All good, I think (?) I reverted all the script edits that were made in light of the accident. Give me a week and let me see what I can do. I know it needs work, but I think I can handle it if I adjust my editing focus. If I can't get it by then, we can proceed to delist. mftp dan oops 15:21, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I will finish copyediting this today and start looking for sourcing fixes; if I am unable to turn anything over for the early section we might have no choice but to delist, but I'm not giving up hope. mftp dan oops 14:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Update: let it be known I was working on this last night when my PC decided to give me the ol' "fuck you" and I lost all my work. I gave up for the night at that point. I'm rather busy today but hope to address it in the evening. I know this is dragging on a bit, but I still think this is salvageable. mftp dan oops 15:04, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
