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This was the Texan Collaboration of the Month in August, and it was improved from a stub into a good basic article by Katefan0, SaltyPig and other users. I've taken up from there and largely increased the article contents, and I'd like to hear your thoughts about it. Thanks! - Shauri Yes babe? hey hot stuff! ;-) 00:24, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I think it's excellent. If it were nominated on FAC, I would vote for it. Great job. You've put a lot of good work into it. RADICALBENDER★ 22:39, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Why did you delete the following sentence from the article, containing a link to a discussion by the well-known and respected folklorist Americo Paredes on the official Smithsonian Institution website? -- From the early 20th century, Mexicans and Mexican-Americans called Rangers by the unaffectionate nickname "Los Rinches".AnonMoos 04:28, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- In whole truth, I didn't actually delete it as such. In fact, I didn't even notice that sentence existed. All the current contents were ellaborated by myself at a Temp page, taking as model the text of the article as of its September 8th version; that is, before you posted it. When I pasted my finished version, your contribution was unintentionally removed. Now that you bring it to my attention, I'll add that information into the article, albeit not as an isolated and unrelated sentence as you originally added it but integrated within its context.
- Nevertheless, I want to point out that the issue of the turbulent relation between Mexicans, Tejanos and the Rangers has been widely addressed already, especially at the Early 20th century section. I suggest that you read the article thorougly, and you'll see that it doesn't exactly praise their role in said events. Therefore, it's not like I'm trying to remove sensitive information nor whitewash the Rangers' image, like your post at the Talk Page ("POV? Los Rinches") seems to suggest. Thanks for your contribution! - Shauri Yes babe? 12:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Then it should have been part of your editing procedure to take into account edits made between Sept. 8th and 18th -- when the article not only didn't bear any warning against editing it, but in fact actively solicited users to edit it to bring it up to "featured Texas article" status. AnonMoos 18:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think that this is the place for a minor edit complaint. I would rather expect you to just fix the mistake. Assume good faith.--Wiglaf 20:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- I refrained from re-editing the article to include it, because I wasn't sure on what grounds it had been removed in the first place, and so wasn't sure that it wouldn't have been promptly removed again (triggering a revert war). However, it all seems to be satisfactorily resolved now... AnonMoos 22:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think that this is the place for a minor edit complaint. I would rather expect you to just fix the mistake. Assume good faith.--Wiglaf 20:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- No argument about that. In fact I did take them into account, but unfortunately yours got through accidentally, mostly due to an unfortunate event with an editor who removed part of the text in a somewhat odd event. My bad a thousand times - I apollogize, and I intend to re-add your contribution asap. Are we at peace, Moos? And by the way, what's your opinion about the article itself? See any way it can be improved? Hugs, Shauri Yes babe? 19:57, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Then it should have been part of your editing procedure to take into account edits made between Sept. 8th and 18th -- when the article not only didn't bear any warning against editing it, but in fact actively solicited users to edit it to bring it up to "featured Texas article" status. AnonMoos 18:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- What a finished article. I am very impressed with it. I have made some minor edits and removed some quotation marks where I felt that italics were enough (in one case I reinserted them, though). When it comes to FAC, I'll vote for it.--Wiglaf 18:45, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, it still needs a bit of work :) (not reviewing content) :
- Lead may need to be three paragraphs for an article this size
- "Creation and early days" - A few paragraphs are a little on the short side, but not too bad
- "The Mexican–American War" - last paragraph too short and probably needs to be wikified
- "Modernization and present day" - some paragraphs too short and there's a one sentence paragraph at the end there
- "High-profile busts" - one sentence paragraph in intro
- "John Wesley Hardin" - too short in comparison to other sections
- "Rangers' badges and uniforms" - some paragraphs too short
- "Notable Texas Rangers" - something other than "notable" would be nice here
- "External links" - couple links could use better descriptions
Take care! Ryan Norton T | @ | C 21:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- As I told you the other day at your Talk page, Ryan, thank you so very much for the input. I've addressed all your suggestions as thoroughly as possible. Thx again! Shauri smile! 17:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)