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You're out... again![edit]
If an inning in baseball goes on long enough, a player who is put out may come up to bat again and be put out again. But what about the same player being put out three times? How many times does that happen in a season, or if it's quite rare, how many times has it ever happened? --76.69.46.228 (talk) 06:56, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- It is highly improbable. Current statistics databases have absolutely no record of it, but it could have happened in minor league or junior league. In professional league, there are two very old cases where a player was at bat three times (and neither got an out): Marty Callaghan on August 25, 1922 (Cubs-Phillies) and Ted Williams on July 4, 1948 (Red Sox-As). 68.115.219.130 (talk) 11:05, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Batting around twice in the same inning is indeed extremely rare, but there are a few more cases however than those cited above: see [1]. But no evidence of a batter making all three outs. One who came close last year was Andrew Benintendi, on August 29, 2018, who was responsible for all three outs in an inning (a sacrifice bunt and a double play) but he did so in just two at bats. [2]. --Xuxl (talk) 12:49, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Any batter hitting into a triple play is involved in all 3 outs, but as you say, that's not quite the same thing. One incident that comes to mind is the infamous 10-run inning the A's had against the Cubs in the 1929 World Series.[3] In that inning, one guy, George Burns (not the actor/comedian) made both the first and the last outs of the inning. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:16, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Batting around twice in the same inning is indeed extremely rare, but there are a few more cases however than those cited above: see [1]. But no evidence of a batter making all three outs. One who came close last year was Andrew Benintendi, on August 29, 2018, who was responsible for all three outs in an inning (a sacrifice bunt and a double play) but he did so in just two at bats. [2]. --Xuxl (talk) 12:49, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of a batter making all of an inning's 3 outs, but it's mathematically possible, especially maybe in some of the high-scoring games of the past. There have been a number of times when a batter came up 3 times in one inning, and in this 1953 game[4] George Kell got a double and 2 fly-outs, including the last out of the inning. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:51, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- I was curious about one particular game, which could have been a candidate, but turned out not to be. Retrosheet (and hence Baseball Almanac) don't have a play-by-play or even a box score for the game of September 6, 1883, when the White Stockings (now Cubs) beat the Detroits 26-6, including scoring an all-time record of 18 runs in the seventh inning. I was able to find a play-by-play from the Chicago Inter Ocean on Newspapers.com (a pay site) but although five men game to bat three times each, the 3 outs were made by three different guys. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- I searched in Newspapers.com (a pay site, and not comprehensive) on the subject "out three times in same inning". There were many occurrences of the report of a Little League player named Earl Geesaman who struck out three times in one inning, on July 20, 1961, in a game at Waynesboro, PA. This came in the midst of a 22-run inning. I also ran across occasional incidents at softball games and the like. The closest to MLB that I found happened to Jim Foran, who apparently achieved that dubious distinction in an 1869 game with the Athletics of Philadelphia during their "amateur" days. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:04, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- I was curious about one particular game, which could have been a candidate, but turned out not to be. Retrosheet (and hence Baseball Almanac) don't have a play-by-play or even a box score for the game of September 6, 1883, when the White Stockings (now Cubs) beat the Detroits 26-6, including scoring an all-time record of 18 runs in the seventh inning. I was able to find a play-by-play from the Chicago Inter Ocean on Newspapers.com (a pay site) but although five men game to bat three times each, the 3 outs were made by three different guys. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! --76.69.46.228 (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Famous Fix site Omission[edit]
On the site Famous Fix they have a picture list of all the CBS/Paramount TV shows but they left out a 1982 sitcom Star of the Family--do you know why that one was left out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.178.135.198 (talk) 15:01, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- You'd have to ask them. --Viennese Waltz 15:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- I assume that if it is a list of CBS shows, they wouldn't include the ABC show, even though it was produced by Paramount. There can be confusion because a much earlier show of the same name was on CBS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.115.219.130 (talk) 15:48, 5 June 2019 (UTC)