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September 26
[edit]00:10:06, 26 September 2019 review of draft by Jconwiki
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Jconwiki (talk) 00:10, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
08:50:19, 26 September 2019 review of submission by UMESH B N
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UMESH B N (talk) 08:50, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
08:50:19, 26 September 2019 review of draft by UMESH B N
[edit]12:32:47, 26 September 2019 review of submission by Vincek19
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Hello, I fully updated the draft and rewrote it at 100% as it was asked.
Vincek19 (talk) 12:32, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Rohith Chakravarti Vemula
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Rohith+Chakravarti+Vemula&atb=v186-2&ia=web the topic is misdirected with no Biopage but an incident page only.
the draft was rejected: saying its not notable but it has lot of Importance in India and also on web. a google search would validate it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rohith_Chakravarti_Vemula Hi there is a wikipage which is not fair to a persons life 1. By labeling to a incident in his life 2. not even having a photo 3. not covering other aspects of his life.We created one page which is like his biography page with a dignified name but it was declined by a reviewer without considering the content. the redirection with the name is unfair the new page need to be vlalid, How can i request another reviewer with information.
Fair eg 1: Name"JIAH KHAN" WikiPAge:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiah_Khan
Fair eg2: Name:Robin Williams" Wikipage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Williams
unfair eg.1 Name: "Rohith Vemula": notdignified Wikipage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Rohith_Vemula
Unfair eg.2 Name: (Payal Tadvi) : Undignified page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Payal_Tadvi
Have created a more biographical page compared to an event(Suicide) page Right page:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rohith_Vemula
this page needs to be critically reviewed not as a biography page :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Rohith_Vemula and the redirect needs to be updated. kindly help us to reach to a clearthinking and unbiased reviewing.
Rasa guru (talk) 09:07, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
@Rasa guru: Examples 1 & 2 you mentioned were know not only for their suicidal deaths they were well established actors and had independent and reliable coverage for their body of work. On the other hand examples 3 & 4 are only know for their manner of death and I know it sounds a bit insensitive. FitIndia Talk Mail 11:23, 26 September 2019 (UTC) Yes, It sounds insensitive and also is further proof of the Insensitivity of Indian Society towards Human Dignity. To mark & label a human by their manner of death rather than see & recognize the humanity in the person. Well we can surely learn from the Global solidarity in showing compassion and empathize with the persons Holistically. The Resoning of rejection equating "well established" with fame in media, the two examples were well established as humans in their respective communities and the recognition they deserve as Humans First. by going with your logic maybe we should rename "Bhagat singh's Bio page" as "Hanging of Bhagath singh" or "Nathuram Godse" as the "Assassin Godse".. and many more pages need to be edited going by the Rejection logic given (Person to be known by the incident he is famous for later rather than a Bio page for the person)
I Searched on the format "Suicide of X" & "x" found multiple right instances of Wikipaging. Good examples are available of BETTER LOGICAL REVIEWING where they have separate pages as it should be ethically also.. 1.IncidentPage : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Kurt_Cobain 2.BioPAge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain
Another point of Highlighting the suicide and not focusing on the personality may lead to Copycat Suicides & Contagion there are research on it. U may refer the Docs below also i See u unfit to review this as an Indian, plz pass it on to a neutral unbiased Reviewer who knows the sensitiveness of Suicide and caste issues. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/the-werther-effect/42915/
I request sensitive Reviewing, if ability to empathize is less in Indian reviewers, As a Global Netizen I am requesting not to reject but pass on to unbiased neutral Non-Indian Reviewers as a third party arbitrator out of the biased Indian systems, for the sake of Wikipedias ethical freedom of expression. This Page is rightful in its asserting compliance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 12, 10 & 8 https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ and a reviewer needs to be aware and in aggreement/Sensitive to the UN Directives for being fit to review the Bio Pages of Suicide & Caste Discrimination Victims the world over, is there a EmpathicIndia or a HumaneWorld Reviewer plz pass the review to them??
Thank you, Rasa guru (talk) 13:11, 26 September 2019 (UTC) Rasa guru (talk) 16:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)