Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Peer review/Ehime Maru and USS Greeneville collision

Ehime Maru and USS Greeneville collision

Respectfully request a peer review for this article on a maritime accident between a U.S. Navy submarine and a Japanese high school fishing training ship. Cla68 08:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hongooi

Looks really good. Just a couple of things:

I don't think you need the parenthetical (U.S.) in the lead paragraph.

What is an "admiral's mast"? I gather it's some sort of reprimand, but it should be made clear for a non-naval audience.

Other than that, I'm really impressed. Good stuff. -- Hongooi 13:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree woth Hongooi, it does look good. I also agree that "admirals mast" should be explained, I would aslo like to see "captains reprisal" explained as well. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for your helpful comments. Cla68 02:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kirill Lokshin

Very nice article, as usual. A few comments:

The infobox is rather crudely designed: no padding, single-color bordering, etc. This isn't really something you're responsible for, of course; but it does detract from the overall impact of the article. I'll try and play around with it a bit if I get a chance.
Is there potential for an article on the DVE? It seems like it could warrant one, but I'm not exactly an expert on the topic.
Having "Immediate aftermath" and "Aftermath" as section titles seems a bit too convoluted. Perhaps the latter could be changed to something like "Later events"? Alternately, you could create a "Long-term consequences" section to collect that and the relations discussion together.
A slightly confusing point: Seacrest was "given immunity", but faced the same punishment as Waddle, who wasn't. Presumably "immunity" is being used to mean only immunity from a court-martial? Or is there something obvious I'm missing here?

Keep up the great work! Kirill 03:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, there isn't a "maritime disaster" infobox so I had to use that generic one that doesn't look that great. I appreciate any help you could give to that infobox. I'm not sure that I could find enough sources for a DVE article but I'll look at starting a stub on it based on some of the sources used for this article. I'll change the section titles as you suggest. Actually, I don't fully understand what happened to Seacrest either. If he was given immunity from court martial, then they shouldn't have been able to take him to a captain's mast, because with nonjudicial punishment, the servicemember is supposed to have the option of refusing it and taking it to court martial if they want to. I think immunity meant that his testimony in the inquiry couldn't be used as evidence against him in any disciplinary action but, the sources aren't clear on this point.

Thanks again, as always, for your helpful suggestions and assistance. Cla68 04:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I put in some padding on the template; hopefully that change sticks. It may be worthwhile to create a MILHIST generic infobox for use in cases like this; we can allow arbitrary fields while still retaining the normal styling. Kirill 04:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks much better now. Thanks a lot. Cla68 06:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LordAmeth

Looks great. A minor comment on the spelling of many of the Japanese names: Should not Hisao Ohnishi, Yoshiro Mori, and Yohei Kono be written as Hisao Ōnishi, Yoshirō Mori, and Yōhei Kōnō? Otherwise, I'm afraid I don't really have any suggestions for you. Good work! LordAmeth 12:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That probably is the case so I'll change the names as suggested. Thank you. Cla68 02:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]