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Edit request[edit]

Can someone please make an edit to Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion.


Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing. This applies to usernames, articles, categories, templates, talk page discussions, and user pages. Therefore, content hosted in Wikipedia is not for:


Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing. This applies to usernames, articles, files, categories, templates, talk page discussions, and user pages. Therefore, content hosted in Wikipedia is not for:

The reasoning behind this should be self-evident. Thank you in advance. (talk) 23:59, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done{{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 00:38, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi guys. It's time for the quarterly content policy update, and I noticed that WP:DICT was added to the content policies. I asked about this at User talk:Jarble#WP:WINAD, and the best I can tell, there was no discussion leading to the change, so I'm about to revert it. But I promised I'd bring the subject up here. WP:DICT used to be a deletion policy; my understanding is that it's been cited sometimes when deleting a page someone had created merely to define a word or phrase. Does it get much use as a content policy, or is the text here at WP:NOT more likely to be cited on this subject? (I'm not reverting because I disagree, I'm trying to stay neutral on this ... I'm reverting because we usually revert big changes to content policy that weren't discussed first, then have a discussion.) - Dank (push to talk) 04:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

This and this are the edits that Dank is referring to; the first one concerns a category. Flyer22 (talk) 04:54, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I share in the blame for adding the policy to the content policies category. While developing the master list of policies and guidelines, I was sorting policies into categories and happened to sort that one into the content policies category. This was intended as a simple exercise in cataloging and was not intended to carry significant policy ramifications. In any case, it makes sense to consider it a content policy, since it governs the nature of Wikipedia's content—namely, that it does not take the form of dictionary entries. I am open to suggestions to superior categories to sort it under. Harej (talk) 05:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm open to any resolution that respects the way policy pages actually work ... that is, if people are citing WP:DICT to support changes to pages, and if in turn changes are being made to DICT as we discover what the consensus is on when it's okay to give meanings of words and phrases, then I have no objection at all. If that's not happening, if DICT reflects what someone wishes Wikipedia were like but it doesn't reflect practice, then it's not a content policy page, though some version of it still might be useful as a deletion policy, since pages that are merely definitions are often deleted. - Dank (push to talk) 05:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Like Harej's work on Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines, I was doing some cleanup of Wikipedia:List of policies a couple years ago and decided to move Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary to the content category after observing WP:NOT#DICT in WP:NOT (a content policy). Primarily, the reasoning was that WP:DICT is ultimately a kind of "sub-policy" of WP:NOT#DICT; after all, the concept "Wikipedia is not a dictionary" logically follows "What Wikipedia is not". IMO, content is what the policy is ultimately about (i.e., dictionary material is not encyclopedic content), and I'd say it's better to be accurate about policy categorization than try to retain historical continuity in WP:UPDATE, if that is a concern. Further, while I agree that WP:DICT often functions as a deletion tool, the same can be said about most policies -- WP:V, WP:N, WP:OR, WP:CV, even WP:VAND function prominently in deletion matters all the time. NTox · talk 01:03, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Social Networking[edit]

Although the page touts itself as not being a social network, then how is there communication between users? The common denominator (Facebook, Twitter, and Wikipedia) is communication. The other two allow unrestricted content, while content here is regulated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

the communication here among users is about improving Wikipedia, and very closely related topics. It's a community work space, not a social space, though there's also some brief friendly exchange among those working here, as common in work spaces everywhere. DGG ( talk ) 22:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Should I undo my previous edits to this page?[edit]

Over the last several years, I have made various minor changes to this page. Some of my edits to this page were redundant (including the links that I edited in WP:NOTCENSORED), so I'd like to undo them. Is it possible to undo all of these edits in one step? Jarble (talk) 22:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Is there a place for feedback on an article, where the feedback does not precisely fit all guidelines?[edit]

There are a couple of closed, decision-making discussions about the article "List of films featuring mental disorders". One Wikipedia guideline that I found (at the bottom of the referenced discussion page) says that further contributions to a closed, decision-making discussion should be placed in the "Talk" section of the article. I would like to add my appreciation and reasons for supporting the decision that was reached. Another guideline, however, states that the "Talk" section of an article is reserved for improving the page. Therefore, I am not clear on whether such a posting would be appropriate or not. Kindly clarify. Thank you. DddiamWiki (talk) 18:59, 24 February 2015 (UTC)dddiamWiki

No, there is no "feedback" page (there once was a feedback tool but fortunately it was removed because over 95% of the feedback was junk). There are no hard-and-fast rules at Wikipedia so I would say just add a short comment under the closed discussion, provided the new comment is not likely to be interpreted as a campaign of some kind—for example, at Talk:PETA it would not be appropriate to add a comment about how it is good that the article reveals the dreadful cruelty inflicted on animals by awful people. See WP:RGW which tells us that Wikipedia should not be used to right great wrongs. In general, questions like this can be asked at WP:HELPDESK. Johnuniq (talk) 22:53, 24 February 2015 (UTC)