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Judy Ann Santos (born May 11, 1978) is a Filipino actress and film producer. She is a recipient of two Luna Awards, three FAMAS Awards, a Gawad Urian, and a Cairo International Film Festival Award. At age ten, she had her breakthrough as the title character in the children's television show Ula, Ang Batang Gubat (1988). Santos became more recognized as a leading actress in primetime with starring roles in the series Mara Clara (1992) and Esperanza (1997). She received critical acclaim as a woman with dissociative identity disorder in the psychological drama Sabel (2004), which won her a Gawad Urian for Best Actress. Among her highest-grossing films are the comedy Kasal, Kasali, Kasalo (2006) and its sequel Sakal, Sakali, Saklolo (2007). Santos co-produced Ploning (2008) and starred in Mindanao (2019), which were submissions for Best International Feature Film at the Academy Awards. Outside of acting, she is also a chef and a restaurateur. (This article is part of a featured topic: Overview of Judy Ann Santos.)

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regarding the recent error report, i thought i might point out that collins, macmillan, and wiktionary all state that "Filipina" can be used an adjective. mos:ph also provides examples of how it can be used as an adjective. i had previously noticed that the article had used "Filipino", but had also noticed that the tfa/r (and fac) nominator had used "Filipina" in the nominated blurb. since i believe the use of either "Filipino" or "Filipina" is correct, i had seen no reason to change "Filipina" to "Filipino", figuring that the use of "Filipina" in the blurb was a deliberate choice. furthermore, a few weeks ago, the blurb for angel locsin had also used "Filipina", even though the article had used "Filipino" at the time i copyedited the blurb. no one had raised the issue then, so i had assumed (incorrectly) that leaving "Filipina" unchanged here would not cause any issues this time around either.

in any case, now that today's blurb has been deliberately changed to use "Filipino", i similarly see no reason to change it back, though i am raising this point to help determine what best to do should this issue come up again. in such cases, should "Filipino" or "Filipina" be preferred? would it depend on what is being used in the article, or what was used in the blurb nomination, if there was one?

a minor technical note: i believe, in english, "Filipina" is used as an adjective only if the noun or noun phrase it modifies is related to females, while in spanish, "filipina" is used as an adjective only if the grammatical gender of the noun or noun phrase it modifies is feminine. in this case, "actress" is related to females, and the grammatical gender of "actriz" is feminine, so i believe both can use the 'a' ending.

pinging the participants of the discussion at wp:errors (Unlimitedlead, Schwede66, Khajidha, Kusma, and Amakuru). courtesy pinging the fac and tfa/r nominator (Pseud 14). dying (talk) 13:46, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dying: thanks for the note. Firstly, I think the FAC blurb should always match the linked article when it comes to stylistic questions and matters of spelling and English variety. The blurb derives its content and all its referencing from the article, and therefore in the same way that the lead and the body should match each other, so should this. Not sure if that's written down, but it's a mantra I follow at DYK and POTD too. Secondly, although I'm no expert on this, from the brief research I did earlier, I think Filipino is definitely preferred for adjectival usage in English, for all genders. In Merriam Webster, for example, Filipino mentions it as both a noun and an adjective, while Filipina is listed as a noun only. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 15:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dying and Amakuru: Sorry for being late to the party (traveling atm). I had this same discussion with last year's TFA on usage of Filipino vs Filipina from a couple of editors. I raised a point that it was more of an established practice/status quo to refer to 'Filipino' regardless of gender (being Filipino myself, I have always referred to its neutral form of addressing an individual/citizen from the Philippines). And consistent with Amakuru's point for its adjectival usage. Ultimately, I just let it go as either did not make any huge difference I guess. Pseud 14 (talk) 02:25, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru, this is good to know. i also generally conform the blurb with the article regarding style, spelling, and variety of english, though i believe i had often deferred to the fac nominator if the nominator also drafts a blurb at tfa/r that departs from the article on those aspects, but not incorrectly, and i cannot see any other reason to not let the wording in the nominator's blurb stand. in the future, if i notice such discrepancies and am unable to find a reason for them, i aim to conform the blurb to the article but will also try to let the fac nominator know, in case there was a reason for them. thanks for the advice.

Pseud 14, it looks like i was wrong to assume that you had preferred the use of "Filipina", as that was the word you had used in the tfa/r nomination. sorry about that! anyway, i will keep a lookout for a blurb on regine's freedom concert to let you know if it also ends up using "Filipina". (the article itself currently does.) thanks for the response. dying (talk) 23:59, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]