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Neutering and Castration contain a mistake... I think.[edit]

Both articles state that the term castration refers specifically to testicles and is thus specific to males, though that is incorrect. Castration refers to the surgical removal of organs producing haploid cells, usually performed for the purpose of sterilisation. That means, removing a female's ovaries entirely also is castration. Before I go on changing stuff, I just wanted to check up with everyone to coordinate how to do so. -ImmernochEkelAlfred(Spam me! (or send me serious messages, whatever you like)) 22:19, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

The castration article already says:

The term "castration" is sometimes also used to refer to the removal of the ovaries in the female.

To avoid duplicating details regarding castration in the neutering article, perhaps the paragraph in the neutering article could be reworded along the lines of the text about females:

spaying is usually reserved for female animals

In general, most people use the term castration only for males, even if that is not the exact dictionary definition. DferDaisy (talk) 19:32, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

The thing is, the wording "sometimes also used to refer to" implies that being incorrect, just like "rifle" "sometimes being used to refer to low-caliber long-barrel smooth-bore firearms", like the Steyr ACR (Advanced Combat Rifle), even though the name itself, "rifle" originates from its definition: a rifled barrel. No matter whether most people use it that way, the information is incorrect and should be changed.
What about "Castration is the surgical removal of the gonads, those being either testicles or ovaries. However, the term is commonly (and falsely) used to refer to male castration specifically."? I could implement this into both articles and add your sentence about spaying into the neutering article -ImmernochEkelAlfred(Spam me! (or send me serious messages, whatever you like)) 18:52, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Common language in veterinary circles is Spaying for females and Neutering for males. You can mention that technically speaking castration applies to both (there's also sterilization but we shouldn't attempt to right great wrongs regarding usage. Atsme📞📧 20:02, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Alright, I go with common language, however, Righting great wrongs refers to living or dead persons or topics of religion, politics etc. whose factual correctness is questionable. The term castration however has a set definition that is right. Your mentioned WP: article refers to original content, which this definition most certainly isn't. -ImmernochEkelAlfred(Spam me! (or send me serious messages, whatever you like)) 23:18, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Bottom line: Sources. Most reliable sources. End debate with proper citation. Montanabw(talk) 06:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Where did Veterinary Physician go? Wait... it's back[edit]

Since I have linked the article on my userpage I just noticed it was gone. I searched the article and the deletion log but didn't find anything. The article simply wasn't there... and now it reappeared after being shown in the search bar, literally while I was typing this. Any ideas what happened? -ImmernochEkelAlfred(Spam me! (or send me serious messages, whatever you like)) 22:21, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind, I just found out... The physician is in lowercase, so for some reason it suddenly no longer recognizes this...--ImmernochEkelAlfred(Spam me! (or send me serious messages, whatever you like)) 22:22, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I added a redirect. Montanabw(talk) 06:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Anticor[edit]

Does anyone know what this horse disease might be called in modern times? Every source I find on it is from like, the 1800s. I don't know a thing about horses or horse medicine but I would very much like to de-orphan this page, either by linking to it or merging it elsewhere. ♠PMC(talk) 07:50, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

this source suggests it is basically some kind of abcess. It appeared to be mostly a problem with heavy draft horses, one snippet I cannot fully access suggested it may be linked to infections from an improperly fitted harness. One source said it was a “distemper” and I kind of wonder if they were describing pigeon fever. I don’t know the answer, but it is a very interesting question. Montanabw(talk) 06:41, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
I also came across sources talking about pigeon fever and thought it might be the same, but I really know absolutely nothing on the topic and was not confident linking or merging without speaking to better-informed people. ♠PMC(talk) 09:12, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Ditto here. Montanabw(talk) 23:12, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject symbol[edit]

The following text was in the body of the main project page in the "Open tasks" section, but as it looks more like a part of a discussion, I've moved it to here instead rather than deleting it. DferDaisy (talk) 02:39, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

  • A symbol for this Wikiproject - Image:Esclapius stick.svg could be modified by adding a V to it, if anyone has talent in that direction. Otherwise, any appropriate free image would be good.

Project navigation: Page tabs and new page for project participants[edit]

My aim is to make the project easier to navigate, so I've added page tabs to the project, and moved the list of participants to its own page. There were a few different tab templates available; I chose Template:Page tabs because it allows an external link (to the cleanup listing) in a tab. Template:Start tab is also available, and there are probably others. If these changes have not improved the navigation (or layout), or a different approach would be better, please let me know. DferDaisy (talk) 02:01, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Looks good; I think there is a userbox as well as the project tag; many projects add a link to the project userbox so participants can put them on their userpages -- another way to find one another. Montanabw(talk) 23:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

{{User WikiProject Veterinary Medicine}} produces:

Veterinary Surgeon.jpg This user is a member of
WikiProject Veterinary Medicine.
  • I was bold and added it... also edited the UB, it had an awful color combo... Montanabw(talk) 00:41, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
I've added extra parameters to the userbox which adds participants to Category:WikiProject Veterinary medicine members, but I think you have to resave your user page in order to invoke these changes and appear in that category. DferDaisy (talk) 00:15, 2 May 2017 (UTC)