Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Honchar Museum Collection

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Shepherds from Honchar Museum[edit]

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From Ivan Honchar Museum, by unknown painter, c 1690 .

Reason
A beuatifully scanned image by unknown painter from Google Art Project, one of the great ukrainian masterpieces, 1700. We haven't had any featured Ukrainian paintings ever.
Articles in which this image appears
Ivan Honchar Museum, History of Christianity in Ukraine, Christmas around the world, etc.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others.
Creator
unknown, uploaded to commons by DcoetzeeBot and Google Art Project.
  • Support as nominator ----Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk) 14:23, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: While I appreciate the intent here, I think this pictures really need to be considered on their own merits and should be nominated separately. J Milburn (talk) 14:36, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thank you, allow to nominate this one?--Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk) 14:45, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support though I think it could be much better described - this is pretty clearly an icon, and a good example of such, but the descriptive text in articles and the file description does not make this clear outside of in History of Christianity in Ukraine. I'll support it for its use there, if nothing else. I've gone in, Google translate was sufficient to check the museum site and check the details: It's on the page for religious icons, so, check, and is described explicitly as being the "Adoration of the Shepherds" - always good to have confirmation. It also gives the date as "latter half of the 17th century". I've updated every usage, to make it better described and thus more encyclopĂŚdic. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:43, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I only used GAP. Great work and useful details! Im trying to do the same operation right now with other works, thank you for your help!👍😊--Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk) 21:11, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I'm not wowed by the EV in any of the linked articles, but this artwork is quite interesting so I don't think it's that big of an issue. However, the creator of this icon is most certainly not DcoetzeeBot and Google Art Project. If it's unknown, say "unknown". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:18, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, interesting artwork and perhaps somewhat underrepresented. Brandmeistertalk 17:42, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as above. J Milburn (talk) 17:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I'm not convinced that this image has particularly high EV. It is not used prominently in Adoration of the Shepherds, Christmas Eve, History of Christianity in Ukraine, and its usage in other articles is incidental. For example, it is used in Ukrainian culture, but its usage could be replaced with any other Ukrainian religious image and the article wouldn't suffer at all. We don't know the artist, and the work itself is not notable enough for an article. Sven Manguard Wha? 21:44, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - sadly, because it is really a fine picture - but as an artwork is not that great, as a picture I wonder if the original color wasn't paler maybe, less sharp. Displayed at full size (high-resolution) the crackings are disturbing. This picture was neglected and not renovated or the camera angle caught it somehow, so it even worse than it may look in reality - don't know. This picture is a good picture, but not really a featured picture class. The description should be tempera on wood - not Tempura on wood.
It was very recently added to Christmas around the world, only some days ago, by the author. Also, was added by the author to the Adoration of the Shepherds and Johnbod removed it, here, and he was right, it is not as good as the other pictures in the gallery. how it came back again, don't know. If I wanted an icon in that gallery I would have chosen these instead for the article.
(Actually I think it looks like it is oil too me, and it is indeed a religious painting, but it is more naive art than an icon.) Hafspajen (talk) 01:40, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Shepherds Bow - Google Art Project.jpg Armbrust The Homunculus 14:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]