Category talk:History of Western Australia

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Could someone be kind enough to consider and possibly create any of the possible sub-categories of either:

Historical Societies

Local Museums

Reference Material/Source Material (viz dictionaries, encyclopedias, directories)

I havent looked at other states yet, so maybe if there is a state that has a good heirarchy of cats to carry the above, could you please post here? thanks User:SatuSuro 04:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Oopops - also a History of Western Australia stub thinggie as well? :) User:SatuSuro 04:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

We don't have a {{WesternAustralia-stub}} or a {{Australia-history-stub}}, so it would seem a tad strange to have a {{WesternAustralia-history-stub}}. But I like the idea all the same; at least there would be one stub category that I would want to keep an eye on. Apparently you're not supposed to create a new stub category until you've debated it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, although I'm pretty sure that WikiProject has neither the moral nor the official authority to make such a directive. User talk:Hesperian 04:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually my moral outrage at having to seek permission to create a stub has already been vented by others at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates/December 2005#Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. We were outnumbered big time. I don't think I'll be creating any stubs any time soon. User talk:Hesperian 05:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, then the possibility of a huge amount of west australian history stubs shall have to live under some stupid category??? User:SatuSuro 07:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Aboriginal History of Western Australia Needed

A category of Western Australian Aboriginal History is needed. History is not something that is exclusively European. John D. Croft 18:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

A couple of points here:

1. There's not much point rolling out a Category:Aboriginal history of Western Australia until we have ten or so articles to put in it. I see 1946 Pilbara strike, Alas Poor Yagan, Jandamarra, Yagan, and that's about it. I suspect the real problem is a paucity of material, rather than the absence of a category to put it in.
2. How would you scope such an category? Was Tommy Windich part of Aboriginal history, or was he an aboriginal who participated in European history? Was Robert Lyon part of Aboriginal history even though European? Would article WAY 1979 belong in such a category because it mentions Colbung's eviction stunt?

Hesperian 22:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I tend to see it differently - there is probably a misunderstanding about the difference between article and category for a start. I think this conversation really should be at the WP WA project talk page for a start for a wider audience!

The problem with aboriginal history in western australia is that extensive material has been produced internally and in public domain at the unis ECU, UWA, and CUT - and nothing systematic has really been produced since the berndts did their work - since then - the material is predominantly 'parts' rather than a whole - from what I have been aware of. It is my belief that there are up to four separate articles required -

• (1) Pre-european
• (2) Early contact to 1900
• (3) Twentieth century
• (4) snapshot of early 21st century

It is my belief that anything less would be a disservice to the people the history is of - and the huge amount of scholarship - and the wide range of experiences - that need to be covered. SatuSuro 01:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)