Talk:Æthelgeard

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Should this article be deleted?[edit]

Æthelgeard is listed in the 2nd edition of the Handbook of British Chronology, where his date is given as c.950, even though he is listed before Conan, who was appointed c.930. He is omitted from the 3rd edition, and I cannot find him in other sources such as PASE, Google and Google Scholar. A case for deleting? Dudley Miles (talk) 13:39, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed he's dubious. But there are 5 confirmed people by that name in PASE. The articles should be about them, and mention him as another unconfirmed possibility. I'll rewrite it accordingly tonight. DGG ( talk ) 13:07, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've found some other mentions of a Æthelgeard but I have a strong feeling the WInchester archive one in particular is about Æthelgar or Æthelhard (seems likely initially but I think he was easily a century earlier). I'd be inclined to redirect to something, yes. I'll ask Charles Matthews.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:39, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Æthelgeard or Ethelgeard the thegn seems to be an important person around 950, and is mentioned in a number of good sources on Google Books. He goes down into obscurity with the end of the reign of Eadwig; but before that he was a notable landowner. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I think so, and I think Ealdgyth was right to remove the bishop reference.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:59, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This mentions Ethelgeard being an archbishop in late 8th century. He is mentioned in 797 and 798 here. Obviously two different people but I think there was an archbishop of the late 8th century, don't know where he is from though, Kent seems more likely than Cornwall. I've worked it out, the earlier one is Æthelhard. I'll put a hat note on the top.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 08:12, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I initially thought he might be the same person as Æthelheard of Winchester but the 759 is actually 200 years earlier, so rules that one out. I'll link him too in the hat.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 08:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That google book reference was in a book originally published in 1902 - see [1] ... so it isn't enough to confirm that there was any such archbishop. The English archbishop's are reasonably well attested - and the list is pretty set (plus I've updated them here on Wikipedia from the Hanbook's third edition). Ealdgyth - Talk 12:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]