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Dr. Blofeld, would you please remove the banner ad of Wales from your talk page? I realize that you have a fundamental disagreement on the civility thing, but this is going too far. It's a violation of WP:POLEMIC and is only going to create more time-wasting drama. In the interest of, well, building an encyclopedia, please remove it yourself before someone else does. ~Adjwilley (talk) 04:23, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

How is posting an ad, which Wales himself uploaded, and which contains nothing but a positive message, be a "polemic"? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:10, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
If the community is uncomfortable with the banner, then I'm sure it's nothing on how uncomfortable I really feel right now contributing to something run by people who obviously are not showing enough interest in promoting the actual encyclopedia and don't appear to be trying to improve relations between editors such as myself and the foundation. I'm at an all time low in enthusiasm for this thing and find it incredibly hard at the moment to want to produce anything of value. And a large part of that is realising how this thing is being run and the poor will to overcome site problems. I'm feeling that this is a huge time sink currently and work which further glorifies Wales at our expense. The people running this thing have the real power to breathe new life into project and bring us the people we need but what are they actively doing? Where is all the effort to bring in twice the number of female editors and realistically meet the 25% goal? The site is riddled with massive administrative problems and needs a major focus on content but what are they doing? If you're going to pay people to run this thing then they should be concentrating mainly on using their position to maximise the growth and potential of the website at the grass roots level of actual day to day editing of wikipedia and invent new and exciting new ways to get us the expert editors and new content we badly need. Jimbo, a member of the foundation, however strongly he feels about Eric or incivility, right now is doing just the opposite and creating an even bigger divide in the community, however good he thinks his intentions are. He's well within reason I think to want a more pleasant atmosphere on the site, but he's obviously not doing anything to tackle it personally in practice and he doesn't seem to acknowledge that the way he's going about it is actually increasing incivility and hostility by encouraging a culture of lynch mobbing to gain quick brownie points and further distractions from actual encyclopedia building. If he or the foundation are concerned with anything I've said or think I'm wrong, they're perfectly entitled to email me off wiki. I doubt I'll change my mind on the current situation until I see any indication that they do care what the most active editors on here think and start to show an actual effort to try to improve the problems on the site. Personal attacks are prevalent on here, and not just in sweary remarks; until you get to the root of the actual problem and try to make changes which reduce editor conflict then nothing is going to change.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:10, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I've seen the image before today, and can't say I would call it "Polemic". It isn't calling Jimmy a name, it isn't questioning his character, it is questioning his priorities. That it does so in a satirical manner doesn't take away from the message, a message that has been expressed by a number of people, that Jimmy is putting civility above content, the social aspects of the site above the articles. Whether or not you agree is meaningless, as the latitude we give editors when expressing themselves isn't dependent on whether or not we agree with them, but instead on whether or not the message and vehicle is "reasonable". Posting this message on a singular editor's talk page seems reasonable to me. Posting on Jimmy's, that would depend on the context of the discussion, but would probably be seen as soapboxing and I would strongly discourage that.
But lets get down to brass tacks, shall we? Here is the real problem: What if someone (me, Blofeld, whoever) typed this on their talk page when they were in the middle of a discussion:
"It's like Jimbo is saying "Imagine a world in which everybody was really, I mean, really nice to one another and a project which brings together the most civil people on the planet into one project to make the worlds a better place. This is what we are trying to achieve, oh and that encyclopedia thingy some want as well as a bonus, I almost forgot!! Click here to donate today!""
Would you call for sanctions against that person for that satirical observation? Is there anything that resembles a personal attack in that paragraph? Would you file at ANI for it? If you did, how long would it take to get closed as a silly case? The ONLY difference is that Dr. Blofeld embedded those exact words into a graphic with a freely available image of Jimbo. And frankly, that is one of the better images of Jimbo. It is on topic (about Wikipedia), it is properly placed (in their own space) and non offensive (no attacks). Some might not like it, but isn't anyone's job to please everyone, nor is it anyone's responsibility to be politically correct as to not offend every single person here.
Just as I would defend any editor's right to express their opinion about how Wikipedia is run, or the priorities of people who have more power than they have, on their own talk page, I just can't see a reason to force someone to delete something that is perfectly fine when expressed as text. That someone disagrees with the message, thus finds it convenient to request action, is insufficient for me. People on Wikipediocracy and other websites often complain about how some censor genuine disagreement with the "powerful" types here, and this is exactly the type of situation they refer to, seemingly with some good cause. If we can't accept healthy criticism of ourselves, our leaders, when done tastefully and without personal attacks, then all is lost. Dennis - 19:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the thoughtful comment Dennis. Coincidentally I too had written a reply that got edit conflicted with the temporary removal of this section. (I ended up sending it via email.) It wasn't nearly as eloquent as yours, but the main point was that mockery isn't going to make someone change their mind, and will most likely make them more entrenched in their views. I also suggested that a more productive approach than going on the offensive would be to defend those who are being attacked.
I should probably also clarify that I'm not try to force a removal here, devalue satire or criticism, or seek sanctions on anybody. I think an open conversation about civility could be a good thing, but I also think that conversation has a better chance of being productive if it takes place in a more civil manner. ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
If all methods of displaying disagreement were as civil as Dr. Blofeld's image, we wouldn't have a civility debate. I don't see it as "mocking" as there was no cruelty. I saw it as using satire and hyperbole to communicate a message, one that says he thinks Jimbo is worrying more about our manners than our articles. ie: priorities. That is specifically why it is so easy for me to support using the banner. Jimmy cares about civility. Jimmy cares about articles. This, we all agree on. The image was simply using humor to say he cares about one of those too much and one too little. Nothing else was injected into the message, no nefarious motives, no character flaws or insults. Jimmy is a big boy, he can handle it. To compare, if someone drew a cartoon of me holding an umbrella over Eric Corbett, while it was raining "blocks", I wouldn't make them tear it down. I would probably laugh, but that doesn't mean I agree. I use this as an example because a few say I "protect" him. when the truth is, I just hold content to a higher level than minor incivility. That is particularly funny since during his last block, I agreed with the blocker and said I would have done exactly the same, a short block. So yes, if someone wants to opine in a way that is not cruel or defamatory, and do so in an appropriate space, we should allow it. If we are to err, we err on the side of freedom of expression. Dennis - 23:25, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I suspect many of the more committed builders of the encyclopaedia are becoming too afraid to debate these issues. It is not helped by the way Jimmy Wales, instead of responding thoughtfully, either attacks, gags or ignores editors if they speak out on his talk page and mutters instead about purging them. At the same time he encourages input from social networkers with agendas that have little to do with building the encyclopaedia and much to do with controlling the behaviour of content builders. --Epipelagic (talk) 23:42, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Dennis, I see your point. And that would indeed be a clever cartoon, though I think that there might be other admins who it would fit better than you :-). I'll admit I too smiled at the ad when I first read it, but I don't think everybody would read it the same as you...I fear others might see it as being more divisive. Anyway I'll stop beating this now. Thanks ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:50, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I welcome the opportunity to talk about this stuff any time. I don't think it is so divisive, and certainly not as divisive as what happens on Jimmy's page. If anything, that little smile might make someone open to new ideas, or at least open to tolerating ideas they don't agree with. The only way we can avoid that "little jolt", be it an image or a sentence, is if we just shut up and say we agree with each other when we don't. That is not a price I'm willing to pay. Dennis - 23:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
We're hard enough done by contributing to wikipedia for free as it is, a banner with a light-hearted rib at the God-King I think is perfectly fine.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:09, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


Going through your array of awards; you truly deserve all, just reiterating some of them:

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Like Shahid said on 5 November 2007, "thank you for your existence on Wikipedia" and "Wikipedia is so lucky to have such a brilliant and dedicated editor like you..." Kaayay (talk) 12:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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genuinely preventing Wikipedia from fraudulent purposes by standing up for what’s right Kaayay (talk) 12:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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for that extra mile Kaayay (talk) 12:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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Your hard work is seen and appreciated. Kaayay (talk) 12:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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large body of work, never sacrificing quality. Kaayay (talk) 12:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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And finally once again, I thank you for this! Kaayay (talk) 12:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer![edit]

Ah... This talk page is full of stars. Jim Carter 19:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Stub contest - final prize[edit]

Hi Blofeld,

Just to confirm that September 1 was indeed the highest-viewed article for the Stub Contest, beating out its nearest rivals by about sixteen times over. Sorry for the delay in sorting that one out - I ended up having to write a script to process the logfiles to be sure and it took longer than I expected to work out how to do so! Casliber will be able to sort out the prize details for you... Andrew Gray (talk) 16:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

"Hubble bubble toil and toffee" (the noo)[edit]

Wikipedia needs your help[edit]

Doc, actress Nutan (Nutan Behl) was married to Col. Rajnish Behl. However, their son appears in Wikipedia as Mohnish Bahl. I have a feeling you can solve this mystery. No hurry, after vacations perhaps... Enjoy it, we will be here when you're back. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 00:00, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Why is it a mystery?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Because although the surname of the father (and thus the mother) appear as Behl in Wikipedia (the latter) and in sources (the former), a user has "moved" -I understand after some discussion- the son to Bahl. To me what happens around these people are a mystery... I saw how you found many sources on other complicated issues and believe may do so also in this case to clear this mess. Welcome back and thanks for your help. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 12:07, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Mohnish Bahl seems the most common spelling. Perhaps he changed the spelling slightly for professional reasons. Can you find any source which disproves he is their son?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:17, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

He is their son. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


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Answering you here for the... convenience. What would having it promoted to FA do (over GA)? I've got a lot of reading up to do, but if you could explain through your experience... thanks. THEPROMENADER   15:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
More chance of having it permanently protected from editing. I understand that some here don't think much of WP:OWN, but in my experience core high-traffic articles need to be treated differently from others as they expose the main weaknesses of building an online encyclopedia which anybody can edit. If you could get Paris to FA and it go through a strong FAC then I think you'd stand a better chance of it being protected from further editing and locked, providing you can show that it's difficult to maintain being free to edit.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:51, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Aha, a sort of 'appeal to authority'. I was always of the notion that a good-quality article is less prone to change because there's less to 'fix' or 'add'. But yes, the article's attempted use as a WP:SOAPBOX has been a large source of its problems (and the reason for the WP:OWN and WP:BATTLEFIELD attitude that reigns there), but I can't seem to get that even looked at to any depth because of (maybe) admin overload and resulting inattention and short-sightedness. And probably even you still don't have a full idea of what you walked into a year ago, and that's what brought all the attention there (even mine). Wiki does have its share of organisation obstacles, for sure.
I'm going to go back and have a look at how it was when it got GA status, and use that as a guide. Thanks, man. THEPROMENADER   16:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks Mr. Bot but your "Wikipedia appreciates your help." raised a chuckle. Jimbo couldn't give a baboon's left bollock if I edit here or not.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


Hey Doc, would you like to conduct a GA review on Rajinikanth's comeback film Face-smile.svg Ssven2 (talk) 13:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Not really up for heavy reviewing or editing still I'm afraid.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:43, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Doc, I am pleased to inform you that the article has passed its GA review. My first GA success and my first success as wikipedia editor. Face-smile.svg Ssven2 (talk) 07:46, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

List of Colombian films[edit]

Thanks for the award. I will try to complete the list first and then sort alphabetically. It's easier that way. --Brayan Jaimes (talk) 14:12, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Jaimes is a surname in the Spanish speaking countries originating from James. And I'm planning to live in London in a few years, but first I must finish my studies in college.--Brayan Jaimes (talk) 14:26, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

re: Bogota International Film Festival[edit]

Thanks Dr B! I mis-read the title of the 2001 winner. Ebola: The Movie. Coming to a town near you this winter... Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 14:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Nope, not lost interest with film, just working on other things at the moment (cricket and cycling, for example). I've got lots of work around film planned for the future! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:44, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Infobox added. Shame that there's not many English-language sources for the Karlovy Vary International Film Festival! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:54, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Pakistan railways[edit]

Sir your message on my talk page is "Hi do you think you can actually say what town/province they're in?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:45, 3 November 2014 (UTC)"

  • Yes sir, I know the locations. After completion of all pages i will add necessary information. Please see changes in the page Kharian railway station, you have recently patrolled.Ameen Akbar (talk) 18:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Your profile is really so inspiring. God bless you. Ameen Akbar (talk) 18:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Ameen! Can you also add coordinates like in Kharian railway station for example? Usually if you google the station and wikimapia you can find the coords.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:38, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


Cool page - ever seen My Life as a Dog? I thoroughly recommend it if not pablo 08:49, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

I've not nope, but I'll add it to my see list, thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Albion Mills, Southwark[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Chez le Promenader[edit]

Dr. Blofeld, If have the time, please go to the Promenader. Regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 14:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Forget Gable-[edit]

File:Photoplay Carole Lombard 1940.jpg Wikipedia wants you!  :) We hope (talk) 16:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

@We hope: That's a great image, nice one!! If we could blank out the background in a derivative of it I think it would be good as the main image. Funny I intended watching some Lombard films later in the week! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Let me list it with the Graphics project to see what they cam come up with to do with the background. We hope (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Don't worry, I think it looks better inline and her on a cover actually!.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Here's the request I just made--do you want me to cancel it? We hope (talk) 16:27, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
I think it would be worth seeing how it looks, make sure the graphic editor though makes a separate file and doesn't override the original though! It looks more iconic than the current one.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:32, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

A done deal! :) We hope (talk) 16:35, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, Doc-here's File:Carole Lombard 1940.jpg the photo minus the Photoplay information. We hope (talk) 13:45, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

I know, I've tested it already and thought the current one and mag image look better! Thanks anyway!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:21, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

File:Carole Lombard 1939.JPG A consolation prize. ;) This was taken in 1939 before she married Gable and was published by the New York Sunday News as a tribute to her just after her death. We hope (talk) 15:22, 7 November 2014 (UTC)


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For creating the article on the Albion Mills, Southwark. A very important mill, and this barnstar seems the most appropriate! Mjroots (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

@Mjroots: Thanks, never had one of those! Although Rosiestep, Eric, We Hope for the images and maybe some others also deserve credit!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Ah yes, but you created the article. Face-smile.svg Mjroots (talk) 16:24, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
@Mjroots: I did yup, and several other Albion Mills! The tricky part was finding which was which ins the sources!! It's one of those articles which you stumble across which are quite important historically which are missing in abundance on here!! One article leads to another red link etc, fill that and so on is how you find them!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)


Telecaster Barnstar.png The Friendly Musician Award
For making Wikipedia a better place through your love of music, I present you with your own, American Made, 1991 Fender Telecaster barnstar. Hopefully, you will never lose your love of bending strings. Dennis - 19:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Not had that award either. Always love new invented awards!! Thankyou Dennis Brown!! Try this after a stressful day on wiki fighting turds!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Bookmarked, listening to some right now. Seriously, I need 8 hours of this, so thank you. Went to the gym, was too irritable to work out so just spent some time in the whirlpool, trying to loosen up the stress knots in my back. I need to go medicate, put this on, and melt into 10 hours of sleep. Wikipedia hasn't been good for my health lately. Dennis - 22:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
8 hrs yeah!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:52, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't really good for anyone's health. What's become self-evident is that it exists only to provide Jimbo Wales with lucrative speaking engagements and to finance the WMF in its endeavour to put together possibly the worst software development team on the planet. Eric Corbett 23:01, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Putting together the worst possible software development team... are they hiring? ; ) THEPROMENADER   00:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I believe so, as they're apparently woefully understaffed. Eric Corbett 00:39, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
  • That is a unique award, you have the only one. I made the image myself, using two images at Commons, and turning the star blue using Photoshop. Yes, I'm a blues picker at heart, and a Telecaster freak to boot, so obviously it is a highly personalized award, quite literally. Dennis - 20:51, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I want a Hammond organ barnstar, but I realise grovelling for barnstars from an admin is somewhat pathetic. Actually, scratch that, I do have one after all. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:35, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the thank you[edit]

I once thanked someone for creating the article on the novel The Count of Monte Cristo, and years later, I get thanks for creating the article on A Storm in the Rocky Mountains, Mt. Rosalie. That really made me feel good that someone appreciated the article. Thank you so much! – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 08:14, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

@Keraunoscopia: Stunning imagery!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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Times Archives[edit]

Just saw your post asking for some work to try and get some accounts for the Times archives. You might want to check your local library's online resources as some have access. For example, I'm a member of both Harrow and Hillingdon Libraries - Harrow doesn't have access but Hillingdon does. Miyagawa (talk) 16:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Doc, sign up for Manchester Libraries online access - they have it and it doesn't matter where you live as long as it is in the UK. I'll try to find the link for you later but it should be google-able. - Sitush (talk) 20:58, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, but I do actually have access at the moment anyway, how do you think I expanded Giano's women's rights heroine? :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:19, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly[edit]

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@Andrzejbanas: I wasn't the one who took it to GA, but it does contain a far bit of text I added when I worked on the Eastwood article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:35, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

BNA access[edit]

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@Chris troutman: Thanks for the good gesture, this place has been rather unfriendly over the last few weeks... I clicked on the confirmation thing but I've still not received an email to confirm as it said I would.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to hear you've not been enjoying things recently. The internet can be a horrible place sometimes. I don't see your information on the google doc. Once I have your information I'll ask BNA about your registration there. After that we can get your account processed. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:34, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Want a challenge?[edit]

Please come here. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 09:59, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Ladislav Grosman[edit]

Hello Blofeld. I've translated the section "Biography" from cs:wiki but when I tried to verify the claims I found out that the text on cs:wiki is apparently a copyvio of this excellent source. Could you please help to modify the wording or sentence structure? I'll have to delete the revision, it constitutes copyright violation also as translation. I'll notify people on cs:wiki, it's been there since 2010. Thanks. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 17:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

It was a beautiful wedding and the last few days were amazing. Back to normal life now. I added a bit from the NYT to the Grosman article and will take a look at it again tomorrow as it does need a chop if a rewrite doesn't happen asap. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:55, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Florence Nagle[edit]

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Miroslav Cikán[edit]

Sure - I'll get to the talkpages later today. Any other categories that need creating, or did I hit them all?

"Great minds think alike" - that takes care of you. Now what's my excuse? :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree - and it's good to see you back at article-creating. I ought to get back into it myself; there's an ever-growing number of Italian composers whose biographies we lack, I find.
Talking of cast lists...I've found there are a lot of films whose English articles are missing them, for whatever reason, but whose other-language articles contain them. Joan of Arc is a good example. (I need to transfer it over from the French Wiki.) Any idea why that is? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:36, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Done with the talkpages. Anything else you can think of that needs doing? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:58, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Right. I'll look for 'em tomorrow, then. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:15, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Sure. I'll take a look when I can. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:08, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
OK, I did them last night. And I just did the talkpages. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:14, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Anything else? Any lists of films to stub? Just show me the template - I wouldn't mind helping out now and again. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:18, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I'll have a look and see what I can do tonight. It's been too long since I've actually worked on creating stub articles. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:36, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I'll have a look later - maybe tomorrow or in a couple of days. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:27, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ganga puja[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Czech Mate[edit]

Thanks for the Barnstar, Dr B! I do recall doing some work on Czech actors and films a while back. The Czech Film Database was very handy for actor bios, etc. If you have a list of directors and/or actors who have many gaps on EN wiki in their filmographies, drop me a note, and I'll be happy to turn that sea of red to blue. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 11:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

This is why I love WP. This morning I've gone from Czech cinema, to Elvis to Indian cricket all in the space of 30 minutes! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:29, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I'll try to improve the article about Miroslav Cikán, Blofeld. Try Loves of a Blonde, Intimate Lighting or A Report on the Party and the Guests if you like Golden Sixties/Czech New Wave. Personally I think that Marketa Lazarová is the best Czech film ever made, but I have to agree with you that The Shop on Main Street is a masterpiece. I remember Jozef Kroner rather as a comedy actor from the beautiful series Slovácko sa nesúdí, but he was really fantastic also in this tragedy. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 12:09, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Vejvančický Thanks. Yes, Loves of a Blonde and Daisies (film) are two films I've been meaning to see for a while. Will add the others to my to see list.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks on the Otakar Vávra template and films. Let me know which other Czech directors and actors have big holes in their filmograhies. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:57, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


Hello DB. I see you are working on SK's ACO film today. I am wondering it you might be interested in taking a look at this Talk:A Clockwork Orange (film)#Public perception of genre .28proposed_re-write.29. The genesis of this is a bit long and involved. Some of the info about it can be seen in the threads above - including one at the top of the talk page. IMO the info would be of benefit to the article and I think that a skilled editor like you could improve its usefulness. OTOH you might not agree with the sections premiss or you might not be interested in working on it. I also know that it might be a hassle to come in on the middle of this so no worries if you would rather not deal with it. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:34, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

@MarnetteD: Oh pretty much the whole thing will need a rewrite. I'd thought the same thing, concision is always better. Don't worry, Clockwork is one of my targets with the books through the grant to get to GA status. For now I'm just compiling info in my sandbox and adding some quotes and stuff to films, and I can decide what to do with it at a later date. I've reached Barry Lyndon now in the first book I have, rather than me actually starting work on Clockwork. For the main Kubrick article I'm planning on something really clean and concise rather than detailed and sub articles in detail.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:07, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm - this is the second time that your pinging me hasn't worked - and it only seems to be your pings. Maybe the wikisoftware it trying to keep two film fans from communicating :-) Fortunately, my watchlist still works. Thanks for the reply and I look forward to reading your work in the days ahead. MarnetteD|Talk 17:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

MarnetteD How about that?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Yep I got this one just fine. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 17:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Must be the ping template, u is better anyway. With a bit of luck I'll get to the end of the Stanley Kubrick:The Complete Films this evening and begin on one of the biographies tomorrow. I have two biographies, a book on analysis of his themes and one on Clockwork itself.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:22, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


Dr B. I have just submitted Ince Blundell Hall as a GAN. It is a Grade II* listed former country house that has been overlooked until recently. Knowing of your interest in such buildings, I wonder if you would be willing to carry out a review. The article has been seen and copyedited by EC. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I'll reserve it shortly, should be fairly straightforward if Eric has already copyedited it! I'll try to do it on the weekend if that's OK.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for taking this on. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:30, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
And even more thanks for such a quick review. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

You're most welcome Peter I. Vardy, it makes a very good GA. There's many in your back log I believe which would pass GA with some minor updating work. Given that we only have a pathetic 374 good articles on architectural pieces in general worldwide, each one counts!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Hoping you come back[edit]

HI Dr. B! Its been over a week since I last heard from you and Im hoping that you decide to come back so we can work with you on any remaining issues the article might have to gain your support. Unlocking your support is all this article needs to achieve featured status now. In the time since we last heard from you, we have been hard at work on the issues that you pointed out and I think many of the issues you had may now be resolved. I have replaced and/or doubled up many HistoryLink citations with a book source and have improved the sourcing in the history section as well other parts of the article. Casliber has done a thorough copyedit and worked with me to get rid of the last of the flab in the prose, taking out introductory and other sentences that dont tell you anything in particular. The Sports section seems done. It doesnt have that ugly table in there and even includes a Googlebook citation, which you introduced me to. The Parks and rec section has been slashed and is comprehensive, yet compact; covering the parks, trails, as well as summer and winter recreation. We have worked so hard on this and we are so close. Lets do this! :)G755648 (talk) 02:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Red-linked towns and villages of Burma[edit]

And a few others... You have disambiguated these with coordinates in the navboxes (e.g Alegon (18°0'0"N 95°41'0"E)). Is there any more information available we can use? All the best: Rich Farmbrough03:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC).

There's a huge number of villages of the same name in Burma like that, so in circumstances coordinates will be needed. It's difficult to know which village is in which district let alone township. Yup, a massive dabbing operation is needed to sort out Burma but long term I believe it'll need to be done eventually.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:04, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

OK well I am still pretty restricted in what I can do, but maybe I'll put that on my un-written to-do list. All the best: Rich Farmbrough02:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC).

Cardamom production[edit]

Spiced tea with cardamom and other flavourings

I believe that Cardamom production will interest you. I expect I can give it some more attention over the weekend, but in the meantime, if you can chop the PD stuff and/or expand with other refs, that would be tea-rrific. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:02, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for jumping in. Totally agree that most of it needed the chopping block. Figured it was a good start to some historical background information. From here on, it has to include the contemporary information, some of which I do have bookmarked. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:26, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of D. Dashdondog for deletion[edit]

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Ancient monuments & icons[edit]

Thanks for your comment & work on List of Scheduled Monuments in Taunton Deane. I will check out Balt Moor Wall sources. About the icons - lots of people do this & I've never seen any problems - it may depend on browser type & screen resolution. I'm trying to do a series of lists at the bottom of my userpage under Achievements in the format for "Crown Awards" & click show but I can get the number of columns to work properly for the Nominations page.— Rod talk 11:17, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I've done coords for Abbotsfield, Wiveliscombe. Not sure about "farm" seems more of a country house from the description. I first saw mention of it at List of country houses in the United Kingdom#Somerset but if you are looking for redlinks to turn into stubs my major project at the moment is all the sub lists of Scheduled Monuments in Somerset (as well as working with others on Magna Carta ready for the 800th anniversary in June 2015).— Rod talk 12:21, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Velaiyilla Pattathari[edit]

Doc, would you be interested in taking up the review for the film. It focuses on the theme of unemployment and I have listed it as a GAN. Face-smile.svg Ssven2 (talk) 05:16, 17 November 2014 (UTC) ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Velaiyilla Pattathari has also passed its GA review, Doc. Ssven2 (talk) 09:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


Hi Dr. Blofeld, you've created Prithivinagar in 2008‎. Now a new user has started an article about a villiage called "Prithvinagar". I think it's a typo / duplicate. Can you take a look at it? Thanks --Kolja21 (talk) 00:13, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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Oddity. I saw you changed Léon Richer, followed the link to Le Droit des Femmes, saw it was linked from User talk:Rosiestep#Cardamom production, and saw you had linked to my user page there. But your link does not show in my list of alerts. I think it should have done. May be a bug. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:05, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cardamom production[edit]

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Paris article[edit]

Although I was kind of skeptical in the beginning, I think I agree more and more with your idea of restoring the article to its July 2013 version, given the mess they've done in the article. For example: [1]: wrongly named reference (so when one clicks on a, b, or c one is brought always to the 1st mention of the reference, and not to the others); figures mentioned in the sentence not present in the reference; no effort to use proper citation models with { {cite web } }. Unfortunately this is not an isolated case. I can't count the number of grammar mistakes and poor diction either. A typical example of this: [2]. Sections have also been thrown here and there rather haphazardly (for example the "religion" and "tourism" sections, which have been created and moved around several times; another funny example: the article now has a... "Poverty and the homeless" section, lol! I'm waiting for a "Wealth and the rich people" section next). There were some flaws in the July 2013 version, which I wasn't shy to mention on the talk page at the time, but now the article is frankly much more of a mess, and also less professional (unreferenced figures, US-style double spacing, and so on). I've asked User:Future Perfect at Sunrise about some circumscribed RfCs dealing with specific points, but perhaps a more general one is needed. Not sure yet. Der Statistiker (talk) 00:23, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, that is a surprise. Admittedly I stopped looking at the article and talk page a while back as I couldn't believe how much of a hash had been made of it. I'd suggest restoring User:Dr. Blofeld/Paris 2 at least, which combines some of the condensing improvements and decent housing and demo additions (although which need sourcing and copyediting improvements) with the relative technical soundness of the July 2013 version. I'm not too keen on the "Human resources" and "Infrastructure" section clustering though and would rather return to original section headers at least. Ultimately multiple editors overediting the same article tends to often make things worse as in this case. The article needs to be relatively stable at least.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:37, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't very keen on the "human resources" section either, but as you know too well, discussion is nearly impossible on the talk page. I liked the "infrastructure" section better. They do that in many articles, and it allows to group together sub-sections that are otherwise spread a bit everywhere.
I haven't had time to check the article today, so I'm going to check it tonight. I'll let you know if I have comments. Der Statistiker (talk) 19:54, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I see you have restored the current version of the article after all. I've left a note on the talk page. Taking things bit by bit. Der Statistiker (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I restored it but then thought it best to work on a sandbox version with updates. Not sure on that paragraph in economy, I wouldn't structure the economy section in lots of different sub sections anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:38, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I structured it in lots of sub-sections only because you-know-who had greatly enlarged this section, and the added information was disorganized. Of course I prefer the way it was before (more concise, and will less sub-sections). Der Statistiker (talk) 21:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect Der Statistiker. [3]: Clicks on a, b, or c bring the reader precisely to the sentence referenced, not as you erroneously claim, "always to the 1st mention of the reference". Coldcreation (talk) 09:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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What do you and your article-creation collaborators think about notability of individual Barbie dolls? I note that Barbie's careers doesn't even include Star Trek Barbie and Ken (surely that set is mentioned somewhere here) and has only two footnotes ... one of which is to this farrago. Searching on Computer Engineer Barbie or Barbie Software Engineer gets me at least 4 RSs. Shall I write the article, or do you and your team want to do this ... or has the idea of individually notable Barbies been mooted somewhere that you know of and rejected? Yngvadottir (talk) 18:02, 20 November 2014 (UTC)a

Individual ones???♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Individual career Barbies/Barbie packagings. For example this one is Computer Software Engineer Barbie, judging by the package, or Computer Engineer Barbie, judging by a review from before the furore blew up. Astronaut Barbie is probably notable too. They may not all be in the careers series; I suspect the Star Trek one isn't, and nor is whichever one first paired her with Ken. But this one appears to have made itself notable ... unless it's been decided somewhere that individual Barbies aren't. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:21, 20 November 2014 (UTC) ... ROFL the Beeb reviewed her attire and accessories. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Doc, I had you down as more of a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles kinda guy! Cassiantotalk 20:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Playmobils actually!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Doh! Yes I should have known, bearing in mind what it is listed in the Playmobils "See also" section! Cassiantotalk 21:03, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I was hoping this could have been started by a guy, in particular an Evil Genius, but ... User:Yngvadottir/Computer Engineer Barbie. So far lacks the 2014 half of the story. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC) .... and now in mainspace, Computer Engineer Barbie. Many, many refs I haven't used yet. The Independent covered it 7 hours ago. However, it is my bedtime. Assuming this survives, consider doing Astronaut Barbie or Air Hostess Barbie :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 22:40, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Now to start a big nav box with a bright pink and white header and red link every Barbie doll ever released :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Yup. It's not hard to find enough RS on several of them. Just please, nobody start Computer Engineer Barbie on Twitter. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:37, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Benguela Province[edit]

I couldn't access all those pages, so I assumed ALT1 at Template:Did you know nominations/Benguela Province would be ok, but can you take a look? --Rosiestep (talk) 06:01, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Ronald Radd[edit]

Oh, absolutely. The horizons of what's become available have really opened up in the past few years, I think. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

FYI - check the stub tags on those film articles you're creating... --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:09, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
OK - I'll maybe hit a couple of 'em if I get the chance. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:13, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
I figured it had to be around here - seemed like the kind of thing we'd have. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:18, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: directors[edit]

I can start looking at Lantern and if that doesn't work out, have a look for non-free photos. This File:Tim Moore Kingfish Amos 'n' Andy.jpg is also George Stevens--at least that was the character's name he played. :) We hope (talk) 22:26, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

File:George Stevens at Giant premiere.jpg Was able to learn what he looked like from some old cinematographers' magazines also at Lantern. No luck yet with Coleman. We hope (talk) 00:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Before I saw this I thought the son had gone into broadcasting as there are a lot of broadcasting trade papers with his name in them at Lantern. ;) We hope (talk) 00:21, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Let George do it! ;) We hope (talk) 04:22, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

As of now, still no luck with Coleman. :( We hope (talk) 13:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
But-every cloud has a silver lining. Look at what turned up while I was paging through the magazine for copyright information on the George Stevens-Barbara Bel Geddes photo File:Elizabeth Taylor 1948.jpg . ;) We hope (talk) 13:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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I'm convinced that every fair use image I uploaded since 2006 will eventually be found and deleted. There can't be many left now!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:51, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

There's two in today's batch: File:TheAnonymousHeroes2.jpg and File:TheBoxerfromShantung72.jpg. Someone keeps stripping them out of the articles, that's the problem :/ -- Diannaa (talk) 02:47, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you![edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thanks for giving so many articles back to Wikipedia! You've put a great effort into this project; and it's done great :) -Fimatic (talk | contribs) 03:36, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks User:Fimatic!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

No problem! I just felt the need to thank you for your contributions. -Fimatic (talk | contribs) 16:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Paris Article (2)[edit]

Dear Blofeld, Thank you very much for your efforts to improve the Paris article. I've been consolidating some sections and shortening the history section, and bringing in some of the new material and citations which had been added in recent months. I'll stop for now. Please let me know if you see errors or problems with citations and I'll get them fixed. SiefkinDR (talk) 14:36, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I was out walking in the woods (I live in the Ile-de-France). Reference 16, on the coins of the Parisii, is Joel Schmidt, Lutece: Paris, des origines a Clovis, p. 65-70. For 17, about Roman monuments, that's a website, and not my citation. I would prefer that you use the same Schmidt book; he describes the theater, baths, etc. in detail on pages 154-167. Otherwise I can give you another citation from Fierro, "Histoire et dictionnaire de Paris, p. 12, with the same information. I can put those in. Best regards, SiefkinDR (talk) 16:26, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
I agree with you on all points. I will start working my way through the refs and getting them added in that format, and here and there I'll try to do some additional cleanup and shortening; there's a fair amount of duplication in the article, on multiple mention of monuments and tourism figures, among other things. I agree that sub-articles would be better on several subjects, such as restaurants and administration; it's just a matter of finding the time to write them. I do have one underway on Paris in the Middle Ages, but it will take some time to finish. Best regards, SiefkinDR (talk) 17:19, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I've restored to the bibliography some sources that were deleted during the reversion, and updated more citations to the sfn format. As you've probably seen, I've also restored the 18th and 19th century sections of the history, which had a lot of new information and new citations, put them together, and put those citations in the sfn format. I propose next to do the same with the 20th and 21st centuries, to bring in the more recent text and citations and merge them. I'm a little baffled about how you want the cite web citations to be done, I see different formats out there. Can you give me an example of the format that should be used? Best regards, SiefkinDR (talk) 14:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC).

Núria Albó[edit]

Núria Albó might interest you, a resurrection from a 2010 deletion. Would like to get it over to dky but it's still a little light. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Albo is ok now, thanks, but will wait to nom it in case others at WMNWRITE want to work on it in the next 3 or so days. Lionel Hamilton and Kettering Savoy are ok, too, and I struck the original nom, and added the ALT. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:42, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Re:Silent films[edit]

Doc, the breakdown for automatic PD is done according to the year the item was done. Anything before 1923 is automatic PD; anything after that requires some proof that it's in the public domain. With the posters, lobby cards and photos that have no copyright marks, they are PD if they were done before 1978. If something was copyrighted, checking to see if the copyright was renewed is what's done. If it wasn't renewed, then it's in the public domain. The magazines at Lantern are PD because their copyrights weren't renewed. Let me check on the film to see if it was renewed or not. We hope (talk) 14:18, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Bad news--have been to the books at UPenn and it was renewed in 1953. "THE TEMPTRESS, a photoplay in nine reels by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Corp. © 180ct26; L23282. Loew's Incorporated (PWH); 3Sep54; R135430." :( We hope (talk) 14:24, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks We hope, that's what I thought but I wasn't sure if anything had changed on later silent films. Seems silly that we can't use a bunch of images from 1926.. BTW can you find an image of Don Terry?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:24, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Because there's money in them--putting them on DVD is a cash crop. ;) Right now, I just started to look for posters & lobby cards for The Temptress. What happens here is that while the films may still be in copyright, the companies many times didn't mark their promotional material as being copyrighted. Many of the lobby cards have stills on them; a little cropping and you have a still that's in the public domain. ;) Let me see about Don Terry. We hope (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Right now I'm finding some lobby cards from the film--they're not marked so they're in the public domain. Many of the lobby cards of the day started as black and white and were hand colored to make them more appealing to display. Since these cards are in the public domain due to not having copyright marks, there's nothing stopping us from cropping the still from them and turning it back into black and white. ;) We hope (talk) 14:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Your efforts are much appreciated as normal! Watch this as a treat!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:46, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Just got started so here's the first one:

How sly :-)!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:45, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

I thought #5 was Gregory Peck lying down in Snows of Kilimanjaro!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Here's the magazine page--it's at lower left. We hope (talk) 17:33, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

We hope (talk) 20:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

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Flintstones and others[edit]

We strike out here, Doc, because the characters are copyrighted. Look at the Hanna-Barbera photo at Commons File:Bill Hanna Joseph Barbera 1965.jpg and click the link that says "front" to see what the photo originally looked like. I had to remove all the characters. :( There's one for File:Grace Stafford 1958.jpg, the voice of Woody Woodpecker--click the "front" link to see where Woody once was. We hope (talk) 20:53, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Take a look at this. Both cartoonists helped write the song. We hope (talk) 21:07, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
It's music like this that keeps kids at their music lessons. :) I'm at Lantern again and am finding some movie photos--I'll start a category for Me, Gangster and upload them. (Not found Carole Lombard in one as yet.) He certainly got to meet some film stars, didn't he? We hope (talk) 22:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
I think we're interested in part because it's all a time we don't know first-hand, so we have to read and learn and try to imagine it. When I was a kid, I was lucky enough to have one very "senior" relative still living. You could ask her anything about the times gone by. Of course, not about the War Between the States and things like that. :) I'd asked her about Halley's Comet and she told me about being on the roof of a building watching it with other family members. We hope (talk) 23:09, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
The photo should be fine as a non-free photo as I'm almost certain it's no longer in business. Look at the Brown Derby; at one point it was everywhere and it's now also part of history. I'll also have a look around to see if there are any postcards for the Montmartre and upload then if so. I found most of the Brown Derby photos and cards at eBay. ;) We hope (talk) 23:29, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

OK-I have a couple of postcards of the interior, but nothing for the outside of the building. Will be uploading the interiors later. We hope (talk) 23:35, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

There was but one copy of the script of Me, Gangster and director Raoul Walsh had it. We hope (talk) 23:58, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Getting the film role allowed Carole Lombard to leave the pies in the face of Mack Sennett comedies and stopped the family tongues from wagging that she should give up films. We hope (talk) 00:14, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Montmartre article We hope (talk) 02:07, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Another Montmartre article. We hope (talk) 02:51, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • More Montmartre. We hope (talk) 03:10, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • This in 2 parts tells how the restaurant was divided into two sections-a section for stars and a section for the "nobodies". The famous New York eateries El Morocco and Stork Club did the same thing. While those from out of town didn't realize they were in "Siberia" at El Morocco, the regulars knew they had their own section. The favored got into the Stork's Cub Room to get away from celebrity seekers--entrance to it was provided by "Saint Peter". ;) We hope (talk) 03:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Montmartre goes bankrupt. We hope (talk) 03:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • A dance floor with a silk canopy. We hope (talk) 03:56, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Eddie Brandstatter LA Times 2011. We hope (talk) 05:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

There are two exterior photos at Commons now as well as some interior ones. :) From what I see (but want to re-check it come AM as my eyes are almost ready to fall out), the film wasn't renewed. I can try searching stills in the morning. We hope (talk) 06:13, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Benguela Province[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:53, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Finola Moorhead[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:38, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Border Romance[edit]

I try to upload as many lobby cards and posters as I can, even if we don't have an article on the film as yet. Think there are more Border Romance cards out there if you want and we can operate our own "still" for pics. :) Thought he may have been in the card but didn't get a chance to check it. This was before there was an article on Don Terry and I thought it would be nice to have a shot of Armida in her first film. The Duke may have been a "wooden cowboy" in the beginning, but he loosened up later--check this out. File:John Wayne Laugh In 1972.jpg . :) We hope (talk) 15:23, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

The bad news is-Me, Gangster was renewed but am glad I re-checked. The good news is that Border Romance wasn't. Here's a link to watch & download it free. The site has more films and television shows claimed to be in the public domain, but before I used any shots from them, I'd check to see if this was really so. I would be dubious about anything like this claiming PD that's after 1962, because that would likely be for non-renewal. After that time, it would need to be non-registration.
It's not impossible, but registration is more than likely the case. A while back I spent a few hours with the UPenn copyright books over original registrations for Star Trek. The show was produced by Desilu in the beginning and when Lucille Ball sold Desilu to Paramount, Paramount took over the production until it was canceled. Bottom line is that neither Desilu nor Paramount ever registered the Star Trek orgiinal episodes. It looks like at some point in this century, someone at Paramount realized what had happened and re-mastered the episodes, making enough technical enhancements to get new copyrights on them. So if you can get a photo that has proof it dates from the time Star Trek originally aired and can tie it back to NBC, Desilu or Paramount, it's in the public domain.

We hope (talk) 19:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Nice one We hope!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:50, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, we got another lobby card and a poster for it too. We hope (talk) 05:27, 27 November 2014 (UTC)