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I don't understand[edit]

I don't understand how Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind can be in the list of composite films.
Fred 07:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merge[edit]

I am currently working on a master's thesis concerning composite structure in literature and film. I am still in the process of collecting my sources and will be adding them to this page as I gather them. Please bear with me. I am new to Wikipedia but am starting to get the hang of it.

Thanks,
--Annamotopoeia (talk) 03:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job. Please check the note I left you at User talk:Annamotopoeia. Pichpich (talk) 03:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to merging this article with Anthology Film and Hyperlink Cinema:
I feel that those terms are colloquial and Composite Film has emerged as the technical term for the type of narrative structure in both literature and the types of film these articles are describing. I am still working on adding new content to this article and will have all of this online shortly. After, I have no problem incorporating content from the other two articles into this one. They have identified some films that are not a part of my list, and there are other small bits of information I can pull into this article. I believe Anthology Film and Hyperlink Cinema should be redirected to this page. Thanks,
Annamotopoeia (talk) 01:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose merging hyperlink cinema with either anthology film or composite film. At best, hyperlink cinema is a subset of these, with specific characteristics which do not apply to all anthology films, as described at that article as well as within its references. Neutral on whether anthology film and composite film should be merged. Chuck (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support merging hyperlink cinema with either anthology film or composite film. Just because hyperlink cinema is a subset of those does not mean it requires a separate article, and the content (currently, this article is rather short) may be strengthened by being integrated into larger articles. I trust your instincts, Annamotopoeia (I like your username, BTW. Elle (talk) 20:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose merging hyperlink cinema. I haven't seen any reliable source that calls hyperlink films a colloquialism for composite film. The standard for inclusion is verifiability. The statement "I feel that those terms are" strikes me as original research. dissolve ^talk 10:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good Point. There really isn't anything to back up that statement. Perhaps the creators and contributers to the hyperlink cinema and anthology film pages could clarify and expand upon these stub articles and help us understand the differences and similarities. Annamotopoeia (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly don't consider myself an expert on the definitions of these terms, but I thought it would be useful to lay out the definitions that are given in the articles to all of these terms. Additionally, I will include the term package film which is how I found this page in the first place and which I believe should also be included in the proposed merging. So here are the definitions:

An anthology film, or omnibus film or portmanteau film is a film consisting of several different short films, often tied together by only a single theme, premise, or brief interlocking event (often a turning point).
A composite film is a feature film whose screenplay is composed of two or more distinct stories. More generally, composite structure refers to an aesthetic principle in which the narrative structure relies on contiguity and linking rather than linearity. In a composite text or film, individual pieces are complete within themselves, yet they form a whole work that is greater than the sum of its individual parts.
Hyperlink cinema ... films ... are multilinear in a ... metaphorical sense. ... [C]aptions acting as footnotes and split screen [are] elements of hyperlink cinema ... Playing with time and character's [sic] personal history, plot twists, interwoven storylines between multiple characters, jumping between the beginning and end (flashback and flashforward) are also elements. ... [H]yperlink cinema [describes] films where the characters or action reside in separate stories, but a connection or influence between those disparate stories is slowly revealed to the audience.
A package film is a film consisting of several short films, often a feature-length compilation of short subjects in animation.

-Thibbs (talk) 02:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should also be noted that any attempt at merging must additionally take into account such pages as List of package films, Category:Package films, Category:Anthology films, Portmanteau film, and Compilation film. I also suggest we set up a redirect for the term "omnibus film" to "anthology film" since it seems as yet not to exist.

-Thibbs (talk) 02:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the slew of posts, but I also thought it worth mentioning that I had missed two additional definitions that were provided in the Categories for Package films and Anthology films. To wit:

"Package films" are: feature films that are compilations of animated short films.
"Anthology films" are: films consisting of multiple short films, often with a common theme or framing device.

-Thibbs (talk) 02:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I have just deleted a bunch of content from this talk page most of which was confused earlier attempts by me to unscramble the definitions. My intention is to hold off from posting my thoughts on the matter until I have examined the issues in greater depth.

Just to add one more final wrinkle, I just discovered the existence of Compilation movie which should also probably be considered in a general merge discussion. Its definition follows:

A compilation movie, or compilation film, a term used by reviewers of Japanese anime, is a feature film that is mostly composed of footage from a television serial.

-Thibbs (talk) 08:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose merging hyperlink cinema with either anthology film or composite film. Шизомби (talk) 23:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed hyperlink cinema from the merge proposal. It's been a year and no consensus has emerged in favor of a merge. dissolve ^talk 04:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I would like to access a copy of Maggie Dunn's article cited in Further Reading, "Composite Structure in Three Contemporary Composite Films", JAISA 9.1 (Autumn 1999): 33-41. However, I have been told by my academic library, which conducted an international search, that the details for this article are incorrect, that the page numbers and year and author correspond to a different article by Dunn. There is no other information about this article on the Internet. Is this the correct citation and where can I get hold of a copy? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.199.231 (talk) 19:00, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with Dunn Article[edit]

Hello, I would like to access a copy of Maggie Dunn's article cited in Further Reading, "Composite Structure in Three Contemporary Composite Films", JAISA 9.1 (Autumn 1999): 33-41. However, I have been told by my academic library, which conducted an international search, that the details for this article are incorrect, that the page numbers and year and author correspond to a different article by Dunn. There is no other information about this article on the Internet. Is this the correct citation and where can I get hold of a copy? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.199.231 (talk) 19:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]