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Disputed title[edit]

This stub is so short and confused, it's not even clear what party this is supposed to be about. I suspect it was meant to be either the es:Partido Federal (1973) founded by Francisco Manrique in 1973; or maybe it was intended to be about the party actually founded by Ricardo López Murphy, namely the Convergencia Federal.

If it is about the former, then at a minimum the article needs a rename to Federal Party (1973) in order to avoid blocking the use of "Federal Party (Argentina)" as the article title for the traditional "Federal Party" of Argentina from the 19th century, currently misnamed Federales. Clearly, the primary name of "Federal Party" belongs to the 19th century party which was at the center of Argentine history (along with the Unitarians) for decades, shaping the history of the country, and not the minor 20th century party of the same name. If it is about the latter, it's odd that English Wikipedia would have an article about an Argentine minor political party that even Spanish Wikipedia does not, and it should probably become a redirect to the article about López Murphy. Mathglot (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like this article came about as part of a project of mass creation of one-sentence stubs about political parties around the world by Wilfried Derksen (talk · contribs) who has created many thousands of these, mostly programmatically, I suspect. (The article was later linked in this 2006 edit to the History section of the Recreate for Growth article by Mtiedemann (talk · contribs), without the identity of the party in question actually being clear, as there are no references in that section.) Looking at the contributions by Wilfried Derksen on April 4, I see that he created 16 political party articles of about 250 bytes each in the four-minute period between 21:26 and 21:29 on April 4, 2005, including this one. It's likely the author saw it in a list somewhere, and created the article without knowing what the party was about, or doing any research to identify it.

Given that history, and the lack of any clearly identifiable topic for the article, I think we can reuse the article and rename it any way we choose. It seems clear to me, that the 1973 party is clearly the second most important party by this name, and the article should be retitled to reflect that, and the content altered accordingly. (The most important one is the 19th century party, which already has its own article.) That means that current links to this article that refer to anything other than the 1973 party (such as the link at Recreate for Growth) no longer point to the right place, and will need to be delinked.

The last issue to decide, is what to rename it. Current candidates are:

As always, per WP:COMMONNAME, the decision comes down to what name is used by the majority of reliable, independent, English-language sources, and I'll be looking into that. Mathglot (talk) 19:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since both English expressions occur with some frequency in English, there's no reason to consider the foreign language expression. Looking at Google books results seems to show "Federal party" about 2 1/2 times over "Federalist party". Since "Federal Party (Argentina)" is ambiguous, and "Federal Party (Argentina 1973)" is unnecessary per WP:PRECISION, the article should be renamed "Federal Party (1973)". Mathglot (talk) 02:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done Mathglot (talk) 06:19, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]