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Did you know... that Greg Moore won a record-breaking ten races and completed every event, on his way to winning the 1995 Indy Lights season?

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From what I know, the 99 wasn't choosen after Wayne Gretzky, it was atributed to him on his "karting liscense" when he registered. He probably kept it because of Gretzky etc. but it's now the reason why he had it in the first place

Can anyone confirm this?

i've never edited here so pardon me if i was supposed to start a new thread. i am a member of the go kart club that greg moore started in. many people in the club knew him. he chose the number 99 because he was the 99th member to join the westwood karting club. i know this to be a fact.

Anthony Stephen Leanza

Franco-Columbian?

Why does Greg have a Franco-Columbian category on this article. I did a search and can't find any French links. If no one objects after a while, I will remove the category. Greg Salter (talk) 20:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, I'd say take it off....I'm here for the same reason, after seeing his name in that category. He may have spoken French, who knows? - but I've never heard him identified or self-identified as Franco-Columbian or French Canadian. Maybe there was a French-immersion program at his schools, but that still doesn't make him Franco-Colombien/ian.Skookum1 (talk) 21:05, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take it off, can't see a reason to wait.Skookum1 (talk) 21:06, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Castro Neves tax charges relevance

Is such a detailed account of the Helio Castro Neves tax evasion case really necessary or relevant in this entry? It would seem more appropriate to reference it briefly and link to the Helio Castro Neves article. 17:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolandgunner (talk • contribs)

it really has nothing to do with moore. is just coincidental that it was on moores old contract. really has no place here so removing it for now until further discussion 207.216.253.134 (talk) 05:32, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Castroneves tax problems

There is a section of information concerning Greg Moore's Penske Racing contract that became a source of controversy for driver Hélio Castroneves in 2008 and 2009. Should this piece of text be included in the article? Pinging @GhostOfDanGurney: who reverted my change. MWright96 (talk) 17:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: I believe it is relevant as the controversy was indirectly caused by Moore's contract. I've reworded it and tried to keep it to the basics. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 16:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Canada Hky (talk · contribs) 13:49, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I am happy to review this article for GA status. I typically go through and identify any issues, and then once those are addressed, I will run through a checklist to make sure nothing has been missed. Canada Hky (talk) 13:49, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Initial comments

Thanks for nominating this article. I definitely watched Moore race on TV when I was growing up in Canada. This was an interesting article to read and review.

No copyright issues / duplications detected.
Greg Moore Racing is a redirect back to Moore's driver page, so this link can be removed.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a fair use picture of Moore for the infobox?
- Added one of him in racing overalls. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In the lead, "He was the first driver to be killed..." - that phrasing would imply that it had been a long time, when it was only three races earlier, which would seem to be fairly close together. I would suggest changing the wording to reflect this, unless that reflects the true fatality rate on the series at the time.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In "early life", 'played goalie five times a week and did go-karting...' is oddly specific and reads somewhat akwardly. Could it be streamlined to say he participated in both? And in the same paragraph "forward Paul Kariya" may be better as "Future professional Paul Kariya" to establish why Kariya is notable without having to click through.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In "Junior career" - "Moore was voted rookie of the year for the second consecutive season" - this phrasing is weird without immediately understanding that it was at a different level. "Moore captured rookie of the year honors at this tier after advancing at the start of the season" or something similar may be clearer.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Since he was 17" - is this because he was 17, or a minor, or on a provisional license?
- It was because Moore was 17 at the time he entered Indy Lights. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Currency for the dollar amount quoted?
- US dollars. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In the last paragraph of this section - this is the first we hear of his engineer's financial strain - is there further detail?
- No; have removed Challis' financial trouble. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In "1996" - what does "unlapped" mean? Could this be linked?
- Added a wikilink. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In '1999' - "Moore said afterward he learned from Alex Zanardi to accept finishing a race without a victory" - this sentence doesn't make sense, as it immediately follows a victory. Could the quote be checked or additional context added?
- Done MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In "Death", for this sentence "The impact, registered at 154 g0 (1,510 m/s2) by the car's black box,[79] split it in two, scattered a large amount of debris as the open-cockpit compartment seating the driver spun luridly four times and disintegrated.[69][81]" This is wordy and needs to be clarified. Is it the black box or the car that split into two? How does something spin "luridly"? And combined with the following sentence - did the cockpit compartment separate from the car itself?
- The car split into two. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The last paragraph of the "Death" section doesn't really relate to Moore at all, and could be removed.
- Have put it into a footnote. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What is the Jack Diamond Award for? Could be explained in the text for clarity.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The references all look good. Properly and consistently formatted. A spot check confirmed accuracy and that there was no plagiarism issues.

I am going to put this on hold, I am happy to answer any questions that come up from it, or discuss anything if my comments are not clear. Canada Hky (talk) 16:31, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- @Canada Hky: Every one of the queries raised above have been addressed. MWright96 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- - Thanks for that, all looks good! Canada Hky (talk) 14:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review via Template

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Thank you for the time and effort you put into nominating and improving the article. I am going to promote this to GA status, as I believe it meets the criteria.
Pass/Fail: Canada Hky (talk) 14:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 02:38, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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... that racing driver Greg Moore won a record-breaking ten races and completed all 847 miles (1,363 km) on his way to winning the 1995 Indy Lights season? Source: Greg Moore: Gale Biography in Context
- ALT1:... that a financial difficulty affecting the family of racing driver Greg Moore forced him to drive conservatively longer than other competitors in the 1994 Indy Lights season? Source: Greg Moore - A Racer's Story: The Sports Network (Television production)
- ALT2:... that racing driver Greg Moore was required to remain in pit road until his car was towed into the paddock when competing in the 1993 Indy Lights season because he was aged 17? Source: Greg Moore - A Racer's Story: The Sports Network (Television production)
- ALT3:... that racing driver Greg Moore was the youngest winner of the Championship Auto Racing Teams-sanctioned race by winning the season-opening 1994 Indy Lights race at Phoenix International Raceway? Source: Greg Moore: Gale Biography in Context

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marlion Pickett

Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Promoted to good article status recently. Long enough, neutral, reliably-sourced, no copyright issues. Hook is interesting, 155 characters, and sourced properly. QPQ done. Utcursch (talk) 18:52, 4 October 2019‎ (UTC)[reply]