Talk:Guru Tegh Bahadur

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Not quite sure if the transliteration in Devanagari is correct. Please can someone double check it for me. Sukh 13:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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The section on the future Guru's birth is suspect as the name Bahadur was rewarded to the young man after he had evidenced noteworthy courage on the battle field at age 13?, using his sword so well he was had the title Bahadur a title of honor appended to his name. For men to have known of the childs name 13 years before it was given speaks of majic or fortunetelling. Perhaps the writer just got the name wrong?

Earning his Sikh martrydom? I did not know of the special category. Sikhs have earned martrydom often, and have been awarded many medals of valor in many armies, to my, limited knowledge, Sikhs generally use the term earned martrydomor was martyred. He was, as is well documented in history, beheaded during his confrontation with Auranzeb in an effort to stop the ruler from taking steps to forcibly convert all of India's Hindus, starting with the Hindu Pandits of Kashmir who had come to him seeking help.Atmamatma 02:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Before the execution I think he was offered, as was an earlier Sikh Guru, a reprive if he would do some majic or perform a miracle. Both Gurus refused to do majic.[reply]

Developing[edit]

The article is in start phase.Please don't delete my contibutions .ThanksAjjay (talk) 07:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

don't merge but delete[edit]

There are only five names of places given.And they are not places but schools or hospitals.There must be hundereds of such places named after him .Those can't be put in an article.Freankly the article must be deleted and not merged with this article.No use.Ajjay (talk) 09:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Guru Gobind Singh has written about the martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadur in Bachitra Natak:

"Guru Tegh bahadur was the protector of the tilak (ointment) and janeu (sacred thread) of the Hindus. In the land of the gods rang shouts of adoration."

Where is this quoted from - book, publisher, page? Who said these lines - Guru Gobind Singh, translater, reviwer, poet in Guru Gobind Singh's court? There is no uniform content of so called "Dasam Granth". Scholars are still debating how much of the content is that of Sikh Guru Gobind Singh, as such one cannot assert on Wikipedia saying -"Guru Gobind Singh has written.....". --RoadAhead =Discuss= 19:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a garbage article written to portray Aurangazeb as a fanatic. This supposed guru, Tegh Bahadur, got what he deserved for causing unrest. No emperor or king in those times would tolerate such a new, pseudo religion, nay cult, to challenge their rule. The mughals were right to put these sikhs to the sword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.200.9.78 (talk) 10:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mughals were always the first to harm the sikhs. This discrimination began as soon as Babur , the first Mughal emperor came and imprisoned Guru Nanak.
Sikhs did not fight and they were not warriors until the matyrdom of Guru Arjan. The new conditions made them adapt and they were now warriors. No matter the circumstances , Sikhs have always survived and mostly resisted the attempts made to wipe them out. Today , the mughals are no more but Sikhism is still there and it is one of the fastest growing religions. Your comment 'This supposed guru, Tegh Bahadur, got what he deserved for causing unrest.' would offend a lot of sikhs. ਗਿਆਨੀ ਪੁਰਸ਼ (talk) 04:52, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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when did he die?[edit]

The first sentence says Nov. 24 but the section Execution says Nov. 11. I presume this is a calendar issue (Nov. 24 Julian falls on Nov. 24 Gregorian) but I don't know the facts. Can someone who is confident fix it? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:56, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Richard. It shows Nov. 11, 1675 on Britannica. IndieDit Guy (talk) 09:01, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Guru Teg Bahadur Ji[edit]

Please provide authentic information about our history a humble request 🙏 Gsmalhadia (talk) 08:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Guru Teg Bahadur[edit]

To 

  Wikipedia peer review Team

Guru Teg Bahadur "hind di chadar" not shristi di chadar ☚ understood

please dont distroy that teg line it is a humble request once again to all "Wikipedia peer review Team"🙏

Please dont play with wards it is dangerous and shameful thing understood ☚

Proof

Gsmalhadia (talk) 09:15, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Boldface names in paragraph[edit]

Why are ALL instances of his name in boldface in the introductory paragraph? I think it violates wikipedia guidelines. Here's a few famous personalities that I've checked, you can see NONE of them have multiple boldface instances of their names :

I suggest removing all boldface from all names but the first to get the article in line with the guidelines.

122.177.139.170 (talk) 14:17, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 16:54, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Execution by Aurangzeb[edit]

In need of urgent de-POVing. TrangaBellam (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mistakes in names and chronology of Sikh gurus[edit]

In articke on Guru Tegbahadur on wikipedia, it is found written that Guru Hargobind (6th guru) was father of Guru Tegbahadur. However, in another article of Guru Har Krishan, it is written that Guru Har Krishan was father of Guru Tegbahadur aka Tyag Mal. In another article on wikipedia, it is written that Guru Hargobind (6th guru) was succeeded by Guru Har (7th guru), who was succeeded by his younger son Har Krishan(8th guru). There are lot of anomolies found in the names and chronology on Sikh gurus,especially about the life of tenth guru viz Guru Gobind "Singh", not only on wikipedia but on other websites such as sikhiviki,indianculture.org, britanica. 103.183.55.79 (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RSN[edit]

Link- [1]Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 09:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I was about to start this, but you beat me to it. I apologise for my initial revert as when I checked the link I couldn’t find mention of the book in discussion.
There is only one comment to the RSN and it seems a consensus was never truly formed. Remember the noticeboard says, “answers are not official policy” A new discussion would be better suited then old discussions which had minimal responses. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 10:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neither is Patwant Singh a historian nor is Crown Publishing an academic publisher. He isn't reliable. You're free to ask others for their input. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would you start a WP:3O. I am a little busy and have to go now. No worries if you can’t start it. I will just do it later. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 10:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
First, no need to apologize, it was my fault for linking the wrong section to the RSN. And sure, I'll do it sometime today. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 10:26, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, is Patwant Singh even saying anything particularly unique as compared to what is written in the Narrative section? Many scholars identify the narrative as follows: A congregation of Hindu Pandits from Kashmir requested help against Aurangzeb's oppressive policies, to which Guru Tegh Bahadur decided to protect their rights. Are you sure you want to proceed with the 3O? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 12:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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