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Booking Agent[edit]

I think their booking agent should be added to bar on the right side of the page. Personally feel this should be done for all bands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.216.197 (talk) 17:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A newcomer[edit]

Hi! You'll likely be seeing a lot of me in the future. I feel like Halestorm has been hiding in the background while my focus has been on Evanescence and We Are the Fallen. Their most recent single, "Familiar Taste of Poison", recently rocketed them to the top of my attention and I was saddened to see that their articles are so limited. My goals are to completely rewrite the body of the article, expand the introduction paragraph, create articles for the charted singles, create articles for the band members, create a Halestorm template, and add references throughout the article.

This will undoubtedly take some time and effort. If there are any regular editors here, let me know! I'd love to hear ideas on how to improve the article(s). Also, any additional help finding references or just general info or suggestions is VERY welcome! ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 23:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See my message below. The article really needed some cleanup, and for some odd reasons. I'm not sure if the band is far enough along in their career yet for more individual articles and templates, but I like 'em so let's hope they achieve great fame. For now, you're right that the article could use some expansion (good expansion, that is) and more references. I can help out with proofreading, etc. if many more people are involved. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some Serious Cleanup[edit]

I have consolidated much of the list-style information that was in the Halestorm article. Especially in their touring history, it is not necessary (or even readable) to have a list of one-sentence paragraphs about every single show they every played and every single band they ever played with. That's not really appropriate for an encyclopedic article. Also, it appears to me that agents and managers have been adding unnecessary info to the article, perhaps for promotional purposes, but that is not what Wikipedia is about. I hope that at least the article is cleaner and more readable now. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is exactly what I was looking for. I had the basic structure of the article rearranged (it was seriously just one big hunk of information all mixed around), but I just didn't know what to do with the touring / appearances information. It's good to see another set of eyes on the newly formed article. I'll be honest, I haven't really been checking for new references to add more information to the article, but I'm sure they're out there. I had all my goals lined up for the article before even really taking a deep look at it--you're right, the band members aren't really notable for much more than the band itself so far, but I'm confident that at least the singles might deserve their own article space in the not-to-distant future. Halestorm is a great band, so I'm hoping more people will jump on board helping to expand this (these) article(s)! Great to hear from ya. ;D ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 22:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am planning to work on doing substantial rewriting of the entry as it is still a mess, 13 years later. As I'm not super familiar with Wikipedia style, I'm planning to look at the Evanescence page as a model since I know there the was a WikiProject dedicated to it. I welcome any advice or edits. Tiggeritian (talk) 16:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Charts[edit]

Can someone please find a source for the charts that are being repeatedly placed in this article? All peak chart positions are currently sourced with VERIFIABLE references. The billboard website is also sourced in this article and does not reflect any of the changes that are continually added here. Anons (possibly sockpuppets?), please give reasons for these unsourced edits. Thanks. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 00:44, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit to bio[edit]

I changed the location on the bio to Windsor, Pennsylvania. Halestorm is NOT from Red Lion, and this misconception needs to stop being spread. Thank you. Tokyosmash (talk) 18:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source for this information? I'll leave it, because I don't know what's true. But please provide a source so that we can avoid any further misconceptions in the future. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 19:13, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can provide you the address of their house where they grew up and still reside when not in tour which is on the west side of town in the windsor borough. If the point of this site is to provide accurate info then lets do just that. Tokyosmash (talk) 20:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The point of this site is to provide information which has already been reported by reliable third-party sources. If all reliable sources say they are from Red Lion, PA, that's why the article says that. Unfortunately, your original research does not qualify as a source for the article. We'll leave it how it is unless someone else changes it back to Red Lion, but I can understand why it would say Red Lion over Windsor; I live in a town that is actually 3x as populous as Windsor but we use the closest town to describe our location because it is a small town, so a more recognizable town is less confusing. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 20:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it's a bigger town doesn't mean it's right, and my "original research" is from a phone book, find me something more rock solid and you can change it, fact is that you can't, just because someone says something doesn't make it fact.

Fact is, despite what "Lzzy" might say, they arnt from Red Lion anymore than they are from LA. If you are going to put a site together full of half truths your time would be better spent doing something else. And since it is public record, why don't you go on the white pages site and look up "hale" in Windsor, PA. Apparently momma in all her infinite wisdom figured it was a good idea to leave their house number listed.

And for the record, I'm from Red Lion, I just happen to know Tokyosmash (talk) 01:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not disputing the truth of what you're saying, I'm simply saying there are no reliable sources that give the information you claim. Everything you just said is original research, which violates Wikipedia's policies for inclusion. You're arguing over something I said we'll leave in the article anyway. Why argue with someone who agrees with you? I'm just saying don't get mad if someone else puts it back to the widely accepted town... because there are more sources which point to Red Lion than Windsor--and third party, reliable sources is what Wikipedia is based on. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 04:21, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More than anything, I am just being an ass, sorry about that man Tokyosmash (talk) 20:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even the band's website says they're from Red Lion, not to mention just about all reliable sources as Scott discussed above. If the band chooses to say they're from someplace that they're really not from, then they'll have to explain why. I am changing the article lead back to Red Lion but with a "citation needed" tag so someone can find a REALLY verifiable source if they're able. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:36, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Breaking the Silence?[edit]

I have been looking into HaleStorm on the net for the last hour or so... And keep running across information about a CD called Breaking the Silence. Is this a mistake or is it just missing from the article?

  • Spirit of Metal have it listed
- http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/discographie-groupe-Halestorm-type-Albums-l-en.html
  • And the videos I have found on YouTube certainly "Sound" like they could be genuine.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orm03QlZXqE&NR=1

Anybody got any solid info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.159.152 (talk)

An intriguing mystery!!! I also found this: In Music We Trust. The band's official website does not mention any releases prior to the One and Done EP in 2006. However, we do know that when Lzzy and Arejay were teenagers and their dad was on bass, they released the EP Don't Mess with the Time Man in 2000, because that disc is available on Amazon and other retail sites. (That's why it's mentioned in the article.) This is the first I've heard of Breaking the Silence and my guess that it's another self-released EP from a year after that last one. It appears that the band has disowned this stuff since they don't mention the early EPs in their official biography. For now the existence of this Breaking the Silence EP needs some more verification and I cant find any better sources. But maybe it will come to light if and when the modern Halestorm gets more popular. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have a bit of archival information at lzzyhale.net (a fan site), but it isn't something I could cite as a verifiable source in a Wikipedia article. There are some references there that might help, as might archive.org. Xblkx (talk) 02:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Halestorm discography[edit]

Split The discography is about half the size of this article, and should be made into its own page.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No I don't think so. 94.8.119.62 (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the split is necessary or prudent at this time. To flip Jax's statement, even though the Discography section looks like half of the band article, any separate Discography article would probably be too small to survive on its own. See the Discographies project for what is typically required over there. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where exactly are the discography requirements?--Jax 0677 (talk) 19:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For more opinions on the viability of a Halestorm discography, consider going to the Project's talk page. The folks there might be cool with it. The best I can find on the actual requirements for a discography are at the Project's style page. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Hale[edit]

Ms. Hale's article was just created. I have redirected the Hale's article to here.

Per WP:MUSICBIO, "Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases." Bgwhite (talk) 06:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the new article on "Elizabeth Hale" that someone created yesterday and I agree that there is just not enough to justify an entire new article about her, and Bgwhite above also cited the WP:MUSICBIO guideline correctly. However, the person who created the article dug up some extra info that would be a benefit for the Halestorm article, so perhaps a partial merge would be a good idea. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gold from Sweden[edit]

Hello, Halestorm's song "I miss the missery" has been recently certified gold in Sweden. If someone would consider putting that info here, I would be pleased. Greetings! http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/halestorm-lands-first-ever-gold-record-with-i-miss-the-misery/ 

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.77.6.204 (talk) 23:05, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It needs a citation to a reliable source. You're encouraged add the information yourself, with a citation. --Lapadite (talk) 00:56, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Members?[edit]

Hi! So I've encountered an article that lists a more detailed history for Halestorm and their band members from 2012 and before, and mentions past guitarists Nate Myotte and Matt Grisco and past bassists Scootch Frenchek, Phil Connolly, and Dave Hartley. Perhaps the members section should be updated to include these members? (It also includes a relatively accurate timeline for when said members were in the band and for how long.) --184.21.221.48 (talk) 16:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: As an example, I've added an updated timeline listing the members' time in the band.

I Will Always Love You cover[edit]

The article currently says 

featuring Amy Lee of Evanescence, and a cover of Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You".

I Will Always Love You is a song by Dolly Parton, which Whitney Houston famously covered. I know that the referenced article also attributes the song to Houston, and her cover version is arguably more well known than Parton's original, but I still feel we should rather credit the original performer (otherwise, in an unlikely event of this new version getting even more famous, will the next cover be called "a cover of Halestorm's I Will Always Love You"?). Is there any established rule there for such cases? Piotr Zaborski (talk) 09:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

COVID-19 Lockdown[edit]

I am wondering if a subhead should be added to the Vicious and Reimagined (2018–2020) section to separate out the COVID-19 lockdown. It feels notable to discuss 1) it was first time they weren't touring in 17 years, 2) they had started the next album (but ended up throwing out songs and starting over), and 3) the items already listed. Tiggeritian (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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