Talk:Hannah Freeman

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update[edit]

I'll be updating this article using material from the Dawn Marsh book. I think the first thing to do is to move the article from the somewhat derogatory name Indian Hannah to Hannah Freeman, her real name. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 21:31, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The name by which she is most know is "Indian Hannah". Per WP:UCRN the article was (before you moved it) named according to policy. Articles do not need to be named after a person's "real name" if there is a name by which they were more commonly know, e.g. Yogi Berra. Such a significant change really should be preceded by a seeking of concensus. I'm going to move it back awaiting concensus. Marteau (talk) 23:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additional thoughts... the pertinent issue here is Wikipedia policy, which states that "commonly used names in support of recognizability" should be used. Several works address the "common name" issue directly: "Hannah Freeman (1731?-1802), today generally known as Indian Hannah..." (Keystone Folklore: A Publication of the Pennsylvania Folklore Society, Volume 4, Issue 2, page 1). And "Hannah Freeman is not a name that you’ll find in most history books, though her story and her legend live on in southern Chester County. Known more popularly as 'Indian Hannah'..." (http://pahistoricpreservation.com/remembering-indian-hannah/). Of the two monuments to her I am aware of, both use the name "Indian Hannah" and neither use "Hannah Freeman" at all (which is unfortunate, but goes towards the commonality issue). And then there's the road named after her... having grown up in the area and bicycled past that road hundreds of times and down it several times, I finally was moved to look up her name here: "Indian Hannah" Marteau (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep please as Indian Hannah. That is what she is/was familiarly known as. Nothing at all derogatory. Please no descending into politically correct nonsense.

Smallbones also I lived for three years on the Embreeville grounds when that institution provided housing for the administrative staff. The housing was directly adjacent to Indian Hannah's grave and we made a special effort to visit it daily. Also we were the last occupants of that housing before it was torn down so there was certainly a lot of concern on my part that the gravesite would not be disturbed during the razing of the housing building. This gravesite is just off Conley drive just due west of the Embreeville soccer fields. Unless you have information that notes otherwise I would like to add back that acknowledgement. Or conversely if you have better information could you please add that info. Thanks

10stone5 (talk) 20:58, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 September 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Megan☺️ ^{Talk to the monster} 18:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Hannah → Hannah Freeman – I suggest renaming this page to Hannah Freeman rather than the current title "Indian Hannah". This derogatory name was given to her by white people who did not care to know this woman's full name. The page should be changed to reflect her actual name. Mwhartman (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support, as Hannah Freeman is used in the title of recent books such as: [1] and [2].--Eostrix (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 09:23, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.