Talk:Hitler Has Only Got One Ball

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Origin of the Song[edit]

There's something wrong in the first line: "wrote the original in August 1939. British propaganda;[1] Toby O'Brien ..." Maybe it's meant to be "wrote the original in August 1939 for British propaganda;[1] Toby O'Brien ..." --Masonmilan (talk) 13:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I fixed the typo, but it also has a dead reference, all the cites I could find were either copies of, or led back to, the Wikipedia entry. I don't suppose Donough O'Brien's autobiography is on the web somewhere citeable? - Syd (talk) 18:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

"Unsourced"? Looks like the source is folk memory in general[edit]

It seems to me that the source of many of the versions of "Hitler Has Only Got One Ball" is folk memory, as opposed to any one work of literature. Many of the Wikipedia contributors apparently learned it as kids long ago, and wrote it down here out of interest. I am unsure whether to consider it WP:OR, as those people learned the lyrics from someone else, such as a teacher or a mentor (or even their schoolyard friends and/or bullies). — Rickyrab. Yada yada yada 14:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, context such as "as sung in Australia by schoolchildren in the 1950s and '60s" and "as sung in New Zealand in the 1940s and 1950s" suggests that a lot of this may be down to passing editors just adding "well, here's how I remember it". Which is an interesting insight into folk memory, but Wikipedia shouldn't be presenting it as fact - it's quite possible to misremember such lyrics after fifty years, or for the version sung at one Australian school to be entirely unrepresentative. If it's not been seriously written about, it's WP:OR.
Folk memory can be sourced: if someone's written a book about this kind of thing, interviewing people about what they remember, taking quotes and carefully framing it all in a wider context, it would be a great source to use for this article. (Hopkins' Songs from the Front & Rear used for one variant actually seems like a fair source, I missed it when blanking the variants.) But "I was an Australian schoolboy in the 1950s and this is how I remember it" isn't an appropriate way to write an encyclopedia article. --McGeddon (talk) 14:29, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
When I was an Australian schoolboy in the 1950s we wrote encyclopedias that way. 76.111.244.85 (talk) 11:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hoax?[edit]

Who has verified what prominent sources? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080634/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 suggests the first/ most prominent claim, re. Bette Middler singing it in Divine Madness, is a hoax, and the talk page archive indicates there have been other, since-removed hoaxes. I somewhat suspect the whole thing. I see evidence of involvement of a hoax creator. I see "Did you even bother to read it or check any of the external links or the discussion page?" asked by an admin during the deletion discussion (which is still open years later!) I checked the EL. I see only one EL that looks potentially informative regarding whether this is a hoax, and though it's dead, it's archived here. [edit: The 70's-era cite I just added to Adolf Hitler's possible monorchism convinces me it's probably not a hoax.]--{{U|Elvey}} (tc) 04:07, 10 June 2014 (UTC)