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A fact from Ioveta appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 December 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Latin princess Ioveta was about four years old when her mother, Queen Morphia, surrendered her to the Turks as debt payment security?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ioveta.

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I always hate these single-named articles about medieval people...everybody's got to be "of" somewhere, I think. Probably not going to win that argument though. Nevertheless, Runciman does call her "Joveta of Bethany" on one occasion (probably where I got the name from, although I changed it to Ioveta). Runciman's index lists her as "Joveta (Yvette) of Jerusalem". Latin and Greek Monasticism in the Crusader States by Bernard Hamilton and Andrew Jotischky has "Yveta, Abbess of Bethany". Her name is also spelled various other ways (Yvetta, Juditta). The recent article by Erin Jordan calls her "Iveta of Jerusalem." Adam Bishop (talk) 17:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 02:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Latin princess Ioveta was about four years old when her mother, Queen Morphia, surrendered her to the Turks as debt payment security? Source: "... and hostages were to be deposited at Shaizar for the payment of the remainder ... For hostages Timurtash demanded the King's youngest child, the four-year old Princess Joveta ..." (Runciman, p. 171)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henriette Ith
- Comment: I would appreciate it if this hook could be promoted alongside the (soon to be created) Convent of Saint Lazarus hook. I opted against a double hook because I liked the hook nominated here as well.

5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 16:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ioveta; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Perhaps it would be better to specify who the debt was owed to rather than using the generic "the Turks". Something like:

ALT1: ... that the Latin princess Ioveta was about four years old when her mother, Queen Morphia, surrendered her to Timurtash, the ruler of Aleppo, as collateral for a debt payment?

Other than that everything checks out (one source says "four or five" years old, but I think "about four years old" covers that).