Talk:Killing of Dylan Lyons

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A couple things[edit]

This subject is notable, but perhaps it should be renamed to reflect that there were three murder victims, not one. Perhaps Pine Hills triple homicide would be a more appropriate name.

The article currently includes the name of the suspect. I think this part may need to be rephrased without the suspect's name. The suspect has been arrested, but not convicted.

SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 21:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SquirrelHill1971: As a TV news reporter/presenter, Dylan Lyons is, or was, a public figure. An article about his death makes this much more notable than the shooting of the four other people, who were low-profile individuals. Also, the circumstance are not a "triple homicide", which would only be relevant if this was a single criminal act, but an example of a killing spree where each criminal act seems to have a different motivation, and are separated by time and location. If this article was going to be renamed it should be as an event, with potential names like "2023 Pine Hills shooting(s)", "2023 Orlando shooting(s)" or even "2023 Florida shooting(s)", if one was to follow the wording used in the news headlines. The suspect, who has been both arrested, and charged, and has appeared in court, appears to be the only person sought as a suspect, as Police are not seeking anyone else in relation to the shootings. The suspect has been named in what appears to be a reliable source, so I fail to see how Wikipedia mentioning that name and citing that source is going to further impact on the rights of the person arrested to a fair trial and being presumed innocent until found guilty. This article has not stated what crime the perpetrator has committed, and will be unable to say so, beyond doubt, until a person is convicted of a crime. The matter is now for the courts to decide. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:15, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Policy discussion at BLP mentioning this article[edit]

There is an ongoing policy discussion at WP:BLP entitled Naming accused perpetrators of crimes debating the question of whether articles about high-profile criminal cases should name any known suspect(s) prior to conviction, especially when they are only known for their involvement with the event in question. This article is featured as one example of twenty fitting these criteria which named the suspect(s) after being published by reliable sources. I will be copying this message to the other articles so that interested editors have an opportunity participate in the debate. Xan747 (talk) 17:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]