Talk:Listed buildings in Wales

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Update[edit]

I've added a number of Grade I buildings in Monmouthshire to the list and also put in those that I know of which are Grade I listed but don't have articles. In a few cases, I've put duplicate queries against them. I appreciate that these shouldn't really be in the article but would be grateful for advice on whether they do represent one building or two and ask for forbearance in pursuit of a comprehensive list. KJP1 (talk) 21:00, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Church of St David, Llantrisant (BLBO) is St David's Church, Llangeview which already has an article by the indefatigable Peter I. Vardy. One duplicate off the list. KJP1 (talk) 21:59, 12 February 2012 (UTC) And the last two clarified.[reply]

Images[edit]

I've added a couple of images. There seemed no harm in it. Lists often have illustrative images. The Glamorgan and Monmouthshire sections in particular are quite lengthy and have plenty of room for one or two images. The map of "Wales within the United Kingdom" could probably benefit from being replaced with something more informative about Wales, for example a map of key locations within Wales? Sionk (talk) 08:12, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wish list for a bot[edit]

Very glad to see that these 43 pages have been created! Is there any way a bot could be created to make the following edits to every one of them:

Dividing each list into subsections by community (always given in the location field) for greater ease of editing, especially with the huge Grade II* lists – the current arrangement by HB number is rather counter-intuitive. The location field could then be used for more specific information such villages within communities, e.g. Llanblethian in Cowbridge.
Adding the relevant category (e.g. Category:Grade II* listed buildings in Powys), commonscat (e.g. commons:Grade I listed buildings in Gwynedd), the county navbox (e.g. Template:Merthyr Tydfil) and the Wales portal template.

Sorry that my own programming abilities aren't up to the job, being as they are zilch. Ham 21:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a look to see how difficult that would be and whether I'm up to it next week, unless anyone wants to beat me to it. KTC (talk) 09:57, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated entries for bridges/aqueducts[edit]

Where a listed bridge or aqueduct crosses a community boundary, as might often happen, there are currently two versions of the listed item on the same page, often at different ends of the list. I can see that for administrative purposes cadw need to have a number that relates to each community, so having a double entry of this sort is needed by them. But it feels like a very redundant duplication in these lists. For example the Grade II* listed buildings in Neath Port Talbot Aberdulais aqueduct has an entry for Tonna and another for Blaenhonddan. A similar situation occurs for Bont Fawr Aqueduct. This presumably means the totals on this page also double-count these items (I have not yet counted up to check.) My proposal is that they are treated as a single 'building', mentioning both communities. The 'other' ID could be mentioned in the notes, in case they have divergent text, and the total count could be adjusted accordingly. Are people happy for me to apply that at least to NPT?

Where a principal area boundary is crossed, (eg Canal Aqueduct over Afon Twrch) the bridge needs to feature on both lists, so double-counting in that situation is probably just going to happen. RobinLeicester (talk) 16:47, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I came across a duplicate entry yesterday and simply merged the two together. So your suggestions sound sensible. I thoroughly dislike these automated 'Listed building' lists and in a lot of cases it's time-consuming to correct them. On the other hand, deleting duplicate entries seems relatively easy :) Sionk (talk) 18:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Principal areas[edit]

SmartyPants22 - Hi. I'm not quite getting the point of adding a large number of uncreated categories to this page? Are you intending that the categories be created at some time, and then populated? That might be a degree of over specialisation. Take Caerphilly. It's only got 34 buildings at Grades I or II*, so some of the places within it won't have any at all. They may have some Grade II listed stuff, but I think it very unlikely we'll ever have articles on them. It's hard enough to find source material for many of the Grade II*s. It would be very helpful if I could understand your planned approach. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 16:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It’s the same approach as the England article. Each ward, gets a page with all Grade I, II*, and II buildings listed. Usually, just the entry on Historic England suffices for reference. SmartyPants22 (talk) 09:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SmartyPants22 - Can you link me an English example? KJP1 (talk) 11:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KJP1, Listed buildings in England#Listed buildings in England by county or locality - SmartyPants22 (talk) 09:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SmartyPants22 - Yep, that's fine when you're in the North, building on Peter's incredible work. Less so in the South, and I fear you may wait a long while for the Welsh ones to be filled. But, no harm in planning ahead! KJP1 (talk) 10:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]