Talk:Little Orphant Annie

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Weasel words[edit]

poem written by *beloved* Hoosier poet James Whitcomb Riley

The question "Beloved by who?" needs to be answered per WP:AWW —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.197.12 (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- Beloved by Hoosiers is implied. 140.247.248.163 (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that that can be inferred from the way the word is used in the article. Just because he was from Indiana doesn't suggest that his fans have to be. Pi zero (talk) 12:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't just that there needs to be a statement as to who regards the poet as beloved, but a survey or other evidence needs to be cited to support the statement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.197.12 (talk) 19:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really a statement that can be supported. If you don't like it, remove it. 140.247.248.62 (talk) 06:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Little Orphant Annie/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: –– Jezhotwells (talk) 20:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: i fixed one disambiguation.diff

Linkrot: I fixed one dead link.diff

Checking against GA criteria[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
I made a number of minor copy-edits.diff

The poem kept its original title in its first two reprintings, but Riley decided to change the poem's title to "Little Orphant Allie" in a 1897 printing., but in the Lead i find Riley changed the name to "Little Orphant Allie" at its second printing. Please sort out this inconsistency. Done

~~A large number of sentences start with The poem . Please vary this.~~ Done

I was a little worried about the full poem being reproduced, but Wikipedia:L&P says this is fine for copyright expired short works. It shouldn't be in italics however.

It remains a favorite among children in Indiana and is often associated with Halloween celebrations. The poem was popular among children, and many of the letters Whitcomb received from children commented on the poem. Change of tense. Done I removed the italics
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
'~~'It remains a favorite among children in Indiana and is often associated with Halloween celebrations."~~ this could do with some expansion, with cited examples of how the poem is regarded today.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
~~I did wonder if it would be better to have the image of Mary Alice "Allie" Smith in the infobox, with a suitable caption about her being the model for the poem.~~
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Just a few minor details. On hold fro seven days. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 21:12, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for working on this, I am happy to pass this as a Good Article. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 22:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've implemented all of your suggestions, and corrected the issues. I changed many uses of "the poem", but left in a few. There are not alot of synonyms for poem, but I used "rhyme" and "verse", and reverted to pronoun where possible. Thank you for taking the time to review the article. Any additional comments are welcome. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 17:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

I know nothing about this poem/haven't read it, but I have a quick question about the lead.

"Riley changed the name to "Little Orphant Allie" at its third printing, however a typecasting error during printing renamed the poem to its current form." Did the 't' on the end of "orphan" get added as part of the typecasting error, too, or is "orphant" an archaic spelling?--Jp07 (talk) 03:07, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphant is correct. I have an edition of Rhymes of Childhood from 1892 that has this same spelling.MichaelJPierce (talk) 03:58, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

it is the past participle, actually, an archaic spelling of "orphaned" rather than "orphan".

just as "iced cream" is now "ice cream", the ending eventually slipped away. or we'd have "Little Orphaned Annie" for the comic/shows. 209.172.25.97 (talk) 07:50, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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