Talk:Mary, Princess Royal and Princess of Orange

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Princess of Orange-Nassau[edit]

The title Prince / Princess of Orange-Nassau only came about after William III's death in 1703 when a collateral branch of the Nassau's took over the Orange title. It should read Princess of Orange and Countess of Nassau. I'll make the changes.Gerard von Hebel 19:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about the title "Countess of Nassau"?. I thought that the title of "Count of Nassau" went to John VI, Count of Nassau-Dillenburg, who was a brother of William the Silent, and remained with that branch of the Nassau family. The titles "Count of Nassau" and "Prince of Orange" were re-united after William III of Orange's death in the person of John William Friso, Prince of Orange, who descended from John VI, Count of Nassau-Dillenburg through the Stadtholders of Friesland, Ernst Casimir of Nassau-Dietz, Willem Frederik of Nassau-Dietz, and Henry Casimir II, Count of Nassau-Dietz. JdH 21:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In most families of German counts (reigning and otherwise) all family members receive the title of a Count. Not only the most senior member of the family or in this case the reigning count. Therefore, while John VI and his descendants were reigning Counts of Nassau-Dillenburg and other partitions of that state, members of the non-reigning branch descendant from William the Silent and members of other non-reigning branches were also known as Counts and Countesses of Nassau. Therefore William III was as well. Something similar applies to some other ranks of German nobility where all members inherit the title, not just the most senior member of the family, a notable difference with the system for noble titles used in England. The first revision you made is however not at fault. You can simply choose to leave the title Count of Nassau out of the equation. To use Prince of Orange-Nassau is wrong since that title was only born by the descendants of John William Friso. I'll resore Count of Nassau since it is essential to the name of the paternal family William III came from (the House of Nassau).Gerard von Hebel 11:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

I think it's better to use her full name instead of the title she held as a consort (Mary Henrietta, Princess Royal instead of Mary, Princess Royal and Princess of Orange). Does anybody agree? Surtsicna (talk) 12:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i think it is a good idea, i changed it like that in my country's wikipedia Oohlala8195 (talk) 09:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Secret Marriage?[edit]

I am looking at a family tree here where it mentions a secret marriage to a Sir Philip Carteret, 24 Dec 1652. Is this the same woman? Is there any other proof of this? This is my first wiki article discussion, if it makes no sense please disregard it...

"Maria Henrietta Stuart I" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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