Talk:McLaren

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Former good article nominee McLaren was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Bruce's nationality[edit]

I object to the description that Bruce McLaren was "a New Zealander by birth." Bruce was a New Zealander by any measure, and the words "by birth" give the impression that he had adopted another nation for his identification. (210.86.33.219)

Team principal[edit]

I'm not saying a change for sure needs to be made, but the listing of Ron Dennis as team principal should definitely be open for discussion. When Whitmarsh was at the team he was clearly team principal, as both CEO of McLaren Racing and racing director. However, those responsibilities have now been split up, with Eric Boullier as racing director (head of trackside, day-to-day operations) and Jonathan Neale as interim CEO (more of a long-term, organizational leadership role). Ron is the chairman and CEO of the McLaren group and doesn't actually hold a position at McLaren Racing. I would argue that Boullier best fits the traditional job description of a team principal, but for the time being Ron should still be listed, at least until he fully turns things over to Boullier and the new CEO. Eightball (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Actually, F1.com lists Boullier as "team chief" and Goss as the sole technical chief: http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/teams/5/ Eightball (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it does make more sense to put Eric Boullier as "team principal". The actual job title is not important, just their position in racing team. QueenCake (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Note that our infobox uses the term "Team principal" not "Team Principal". The distinction between ordinary and proper noun is important, as the former merely indicates the principal decision-maker within the team (who may actually be called "Grand Poobah of the Gilded Radio Headset", or whatever), while the latter is a formal job title. Pyrope 22:20, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Ownership and Management.[edit]

The stock ownership figures in this section don't add up. Daimler is no longer an owner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_Group#F1_Partnership_with_Mercedes_.281995.E2.80.932009.29). Nigelrg (talk) 05:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)Nigelrg (talk) 05:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)