Talk:Missile gap

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"Not a new technical development, but a place to hide when the bombs start falling" Is this really necessary? I'll comment it out in 7 days if noone responds. InvertRect 21:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Just reverted the date that the first NIE was issued from 1541 to 1957. 194.50.118.230 (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The introduction seems awkwardly worded; I am slightly confused by the sentence that states that the Committee and USAF gave estimates, but the CIA also gave estimates? Can we reword that slightly? Sswerdna (talk) 15:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Summary: Kennedy lied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.152.238 (talk) 01:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

McNamara[edit]

The obituary of Robert McNamara in The Guardian 7 July 2009 p 32 by Harold Jackson states that Kennedy was elected on the basis of his promises to mend the supposed Missile Gap. McNamara was appointed to Defense in the new administration and, following thorough research, announced that the gap was in favour of the US. "The Republicans went crazy, some even demanding that the election be rerun." Perhaps there is some reliable source that confirms the story. The story of false politically- generated beliefs is echoed in the sorry tale of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, perhaps. Vernon White . . . Talk 18:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The Good Classified Material was unavailable to the Democrats until they took power[edit]

In Fred Kaplan's 1983 book the "Wizards of Armageddon" the US Air Force was aggressive in creating first the "bomber gap" and then the "missile gap" and defending it aggressively against the doubters in the CIA, Navy, Army and White House. The Democrats were just one of several tools that the USAF used in its constant struggle for more money and power against the other services.

Since the Democrats were out of power they could only act on the info they had and it came from the Air Force or from think tanks like RAND that were either under contract to the Air Force or only had access to the Air Force estimates. Eisenhower and Nixon could not defend themselves with the truth because it was secret and also hotly contested between the various government factions. McNamara went on to kill various pet projects of the Air Force (bombers and missiles), deciding that the Minuteman and Polaris ICBM's provided the solution, but the inter-service conflicts continued on.

BTW, it has long been commonly understood that Kennedy was actually elected based on the ballot-stuffing in Chicago by Mayor Daley's machine and his looking so much better in the big TV debate than Nixon with his unshaven look.

192.30.202.15 (talk) 22:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Citation needed[edit]

I removed the following: "Claims placed the Soviet missile count as high as 2,000 functioning weapons, at a time when they actually had only 2 functional and 2 prototypes, an exaggeration of 1,000 times what existed." In addition to it being in an unencyclopedic format, it's a pretty bold statement with no source cited. Lawyer2b (talk) 01:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

NPOV much?[edit]

"it is believed that the gap was known to be illusionary from the start," - uh, believed by who? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.230.177.44 (talk) 20:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

"...like Sausages"[edit]

This quote from Khruschev can also be found in the book Red Moon Rising (by Matthew Brzezinski), on page 204. This book is also cited on the page about Sputnik (as number 57), so it's probably a "reliable source". Moreso than the webpage currently cited for the statement, which doesn't even state the full sentence?

I'll probably edit it in myself if I can figure out the wiki-markup, but I just wanted to field the idea first if anyone wants to beat me to it or argue the point. Wombats&Co. (talk) 00:06, 15 March 2014 (UTC)