Talk:Morion (mineral)

Redirect to Morion (helmet)

I think that a search for "morion" should redirect to the new article about the helmet. I did a GoogleFight, and the results showed that "helmet" was used more often than "mineral" with this term.

Here are the results: [1]--Tabun1015 20:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe so, but I'm not a fan of google searches. Anyway, the correct proceedure would be a page move (renaming) of this page to morion (mineral) rather than the cut-n-paste move that User:Nick19thind just attempted. Such a cut and paste move leaves the page history stranded and your making this a redirect to morion (helmet) left what links here linking to a redirect to the wrong page. Now, as this is a short stub about a mineral variety (or perhaps more correctly an lapidary variety or modification), I could be convinced of correctly renaming the page. I missed that note left last January. So, convince me - and wait a bit for other editors to weigh in if they wish. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 02:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Further, if the renaming happens, the morion page would become a disambiguation page rather than a redirect to the helmet page. Vsmith (talk) 02:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Well that really depends whether WP:PRIMARYUSAGE can be demonstrated for Morion (helmet). Note a request has been made at WP:RM to move Morion (helmet) to Morion. See Talk:Morion (helmet). --Rogerb67 (talk) 02:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Morion → Morion (mineral) — Neither the mineral nor the helmet named Morion is sufficiently well-known to claim primary topic status (see Talk:Morion (helmet)#Redirect search for "morion"); Morion should therefore be a dab page per WP:D. Location of this article is independent of the current merge discussion, as the location of any redirect is also relevant. — Rogerb67 (talk) 20:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

• Nom In my opinion this ought to be a speedy move, it's blocked because of the previous, incorrect, cut & paste move. However hard experience has shown I'm usually optimistic in judging others' agreement with my ideas, so I'm nominating it as contested to save me having to move it later today. Please feel free to snowball if you think it appropriate. --Rogerb67 (talk) 21:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Moved to morion (mineral) which was merged into smoky quartz. The morion page was made into a disambig. page. Vsmith (talk) 03:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Now Morion (helmet) needs to be moved to Morion. It is currently the only article with title "Morion". A hatnote for the quartz will suffice. There is no need for disambiguation page at present. 87.114.32.181 (talk) 09:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

No, this does not follow at all. In order to be at Morion, the helmet needs to prove primary usage. The fact that morion (mineral) is a redirect does not change this. --Rogerb67 (talk) 15:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

MV Morion

The main information about MV Morion is to be found at the relevant list of Empire ships, not on the CHANT (ship type) page. User:Rogerb67 states that linking to the list is against MOS:DAB. My opinion is that this is a case where WP:IAR should apply. Comments please. Mjroots (talk) 05:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Talk:Morion where it belongs (you were moved here by a rogue redirect from a previous page move). --Rogerb67 (talk) 05:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

That link redirects to here! Mjroots (talk) 05:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Not any more (and it shouldn't have to start with). You were just a bit too quick. --Rogerb67 (talk) 05:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)