Talk:Operation Trojan Horse (book)

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Synopsis[edit]

When I started this article, I put in the following summary of the chapters:

1. The Secret War – Introduction to Keel's research techniques
2. To Hell with the Answer! What's the Question? – A brief history of UFOs and ufology from 1883 till the present
3. The World of Illusion – Presents Keel's theory of very high frequency electromagnetic fields being behind the phenomenon, manifesting a super-intelligence.
4. Machines from Beyond Time – Discusses ufonauts having total knowledge of percipients, and being able to foretell the future.
5. The Grand Deception – Strange stories of mystery airships from the 1890s.
6. Flexible Phantoms of the Sky – Mysterious airplane sightings in early 20th century.
7. Unidentified Airplanes – Airplanes that cut their engines and glide close to people or dangerous terrain. Ghost rockets.
8. Charting the Enigma – Highly frequented areas and apparent routes of UFOs and "meteors". Green fireballs.
9. The Physical Non-Evidence – Physical objects coming from UFOs. Anchors hanging from the sky.
10. "What Is Your Time Cycle?" – Presents theory that the source must be a form of intelligent energy, able to create and destroy matter.
11. "You are Endangering the Balance of the Universe!" – Messages to contactees. The story of Howard Menger and other contactees whose lives were ruined.
12. The Cosmic Jokers – Keel discusses demons and monsters that, he says, have apparently coexisted with man since antiquity. Keel states that interest in UFOs can be quite dangerous.
13. A Sure Cure for Alligator Bites – On healings, miracles, and Marian apparitions.
14. Breakthrough! – How "the phenomenon" started to zero in on Keel. The story of the Silver Bridge collapse.
15. You Can't Tell the Players Without a Scorecard – Discussion of government reaction. Summary of conclusions. "The whole UFO subject has been so widely ridiculed and denounced that most qualified men are reluctant to enter into it."

This has now been replaced by user LuckyLouie with just the titles of the chapters, with the comment "Your personal opinions about what's significant in the chapters and what's not is WP:OR original research". The titles are rather cryptic and in most cases don't tell you anything about what the chapter discusses.

I think this is an unjustified use of the "original research" principle. The ban on "original research" does not mean that a person is not allowed to read a book and state what the chapters are about! If anyone reads the book he or she will see that my brief descriptions are correct. LuckyLouie and another editor (administrator) successfully prevented me from giving a more thorough description of this book (here) a few months ago (see here). In a discussion with some other editors or administrators I was encouraged to try again, but I am meeting the same opposition. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 09:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your summaries are yours; you are not a reliable source for that kind of thing, any more than I or Louie. If you find some summaries in a reliable source, you might be able to quote them (if it's not a copyright violation); but in the meantime, you are once again doing original research and synthesis of a sort we can't do here, because we are writing in Wikipedia's voice when we add content to an article. Frankly, you still have not made that much of a case that this particular book deserves a separate article, either; but that's a different discussion entirely. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:17, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Eric Kvaalen for leaving the details in the talk page. I'm sorry to see that an editor keeps giving you trouble. By their definition of Original Research, we should delete the "Synopsis" section of every single movie listed on Wikipedia. Sad to see this kind of gatekeeping; it's actually ironic given the subject matter of the book. 184.160.110.236 (talk) 08:52, 31 December 2018 (UTC) — 184.160.110.236 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Thanks for the support. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 11:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]