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There are some versions of service caps that are listed as "Pershing caps" in some internet catalogs. What is the origin of this term? It is noteworthy that in the Philippines, service caps are usually called "Pershing caps."
Police and fire fighters
Please improve this article by including information about the origin of American policemen's 8-point service cap, and also please explain why American firemen use the old-fashioned Bellcrown cap.
The first line of this article states that "forage cap" is an alternate name for the peaked cap. I've always taken that term to mean the wedge cap, and that article also uses it. Are both correct? Rojomoke (talk) 16:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Peaked caps are known as Forage caps in certain British Army regiments, particularly the Guards Division and the Household Cavalry of the Household Division. It is otherwise commonly known as the No.1 Dress Cap (and is also worn with other ranks No.2 dress uniform). --Panzer71 (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Measurements and prevailing standards
How are peaked caps measured? If there is more than one circumference (say, at the base where the headband is, and above it, where the seams are cinched in), does it tend to be measured in millimeters or sixteenths of an inch?
Since the upper part of the hat rises up from the headband, can the angle of inclination be specified?
Are there any mail order outfits in the United States that sell peaked hats for novelty purposes, or as props for movies?
Variations in height
This is a great article. But I came to it to learn about the way that the height or "peakedness" varies between nations. I was just looking at a picture of Manuel Noriega wearing a very tall cap. File:General Manuel Noriega.jpg (probably deleted soon). I also recall the high, wide caps favored in the Soviet Union in its later decades. File:DYazov1989.jpg I guess it's all arbitrary fashion, but if anyone comes across a sources which discusses this please add something. Will Beback talk 10:17, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
ID this cap
Does anyone know where this cap is from?, there was a couple around and came with the points in various lengths. A badge with crossed rapiers in a wreath was under the cockade.
IDthiscap 23:15PM, 15/5/2012 (UTC)
What are the Russian sections doing here ?
At the bottom of the main page (and even on this discussion page) there is a big reference to Russian handicrafts. But this cap doesn't have any especial connection to Russian culture. The Russians do use this cap, but not as much as other people. I've even seen the "ring cap" (another name for it) sold as the Greek Fisherman's cap (black and coarse, with a bit of embroidery on the band) in civilian stores.
Perhaps it's been placed on this page because there's a reference to the square-topped Polish cap. That has a different history, derived from the lancer's cap. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 23:29, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that the peaked cap isn't used as much in Russia as other people. The peaked cap has been an essential part of Russia for centuries- ranging from use by military officers since the 18th century to use by all branches of service, including actual military personnel as well as police, NKVD, border guards, KGB, etc. There were even special peaked caps worn by railway workers, firemen, pilots, mining supervisors, foresters, customs officers, taxi drivers, and countless other employees of government agencies. I'm frankly surprised that Russia doesn't have a section here, although I'll certainly be correcting that. I can say with fairly strong confidence that you'd be hard pressed to find a country that uses peaked caps to a lesser degree than Russia.--Slon02 (talk) 04:44, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
Can we remove the silly exclamation mark
There is nothing that wrong with the article, except for the ! blurb, which should be removed. Also whomever worded the link to baseball cap was confused. Just because the British word for visor is "peak," that does not relate it to baseball caps which have a visor. Many caps have a visor, or "peak." The word peak in peaked cap obviously refers to the high point in front. God only knows what the British call that. So take off the silly "this article needs improvement." I would do it myself but I don't want to tangle with some officious editor. Mea (talk) 06:07, 19 November 2013 (UTC). Well I hauled off and made the changes. A cap is a cap and it may or may not have a visor. No direct connection to a baseball cap which is a demi-globe shape. Can we posit that it is cold in Russia and that they are likely to need hats? Why create problems there are plenty of articles more in need of help.Mea (talk) 06:22, 19 November 2013 (UTC)Whew! I take that back,this is an ailing article. One person was already fooled that commented in this talk page. What is the best way to separate out this British english problem? It's like if I say "Hey, Mack..." I am not talking to a raincoat, even though that's what they call it in the U.K.Mea (talk) 07:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
More removal of confusion about peak is needed
The article would confuse a person who didn't understand that the hat rises to a peak in the front. Somebody got infatuated with the British word "peak" which apparently means "visor." You wiki people are so infatuated with citations for even the most obvious assertions, where is the citation for that? I will re-word the article so that it is less confusing if there is no blowback from my current change. I am going on a trip to climb a mountain visor. When I return I will check the article again...Mea (talk) 06:32, 19 November 2013 (UTC) There are numerous problems with this article, now that I take a closer look. However,they have little to do with international whatever. Civil war soldiers on both sides typically wore a Kepi, which in fact is not and never was a peaked cap. Is "peakless" a real word? Have to do a little research because I know I will get barraged with citation requests. I am not an expert on caps but I wear them. I suspect whomever wrote the errant parts of this article does not wear them, or they could visualize rain shedding off the top from the peak and down. The visor is for the sun. Take a peak at some hats in a store... Mea (talk) 06:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC)