Talk:Pre-crime

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Early improvement and assessment[edit]

This article could be important. But in its present form, its is likely to be deleted for at least two reasons: 1) while the subject of the article is "precrime", it talks mainly about postcrime, 2) apart from reference to book and movie "Minority Report" the article gives no references to precrime. I will at least start to rewrite the article. Johannes (talk) 21:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The article needs to be re-rated now. Johannes (talk) 07:45, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rated it "C"-class. It is well sourced and arguably beyond "Start" stage, but still lacks the kind of depth we expect for "B" class (there are six criteria).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  12:50, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Example of pre-crime?[edit]

I don't know if this qualifies as an example of pre-crime? MiniMax.DK (talk) 17:19, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, MiniMax, for providing this example. It is, however, as the discussion shows, a borderline case. Johannes (talk) 09:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
sorry for no login but I felt this information might be useful.
There are 2 companies that I know of that are actively beta testing this technology. One is called PredPol. Headed by an attorney named Caleb Baskin (of Baskin and Fowler - Santa Cruz, CA). Another company in Mountain View CA has also developed this technology.(Wired Magazine) and is also Beta testing in Santa Cruz CA.
Frank Monahan, 2601:647:CD00:27F7:5434:ACA9:94FE:5E65 (talk) 14:33, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

London, Chicago were the first citys who applied Precrime. This is missing. Where is it used on a large scale today? e.g. Stadtpolizei Winterthur. This is also missing. --93.134.182.127 (talk) 08:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So are any sources for such a suggestion.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  12:46, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 February 2018[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure)Ammarpad (talk) 16:06, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


PrecrimePre-crime – The lead itself says that "pre-crime" is the common spelling (for what our article is about, the legal-academic view of "prophylactic criminal justice"). The spelling "Precrime" is predominantly a proper name from Philip K. Dick's short story (and wasn't even rendered that way in the film adaptation, which has "PreCrime"), and not used in the non-fiction literature we're citing.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  12:42, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. My pre-crime rap sheet is very long. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:38, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. — Zawl 19:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing and unused citations[edit]

The article has <ref><ref>Boetticher & Feest (2008), p. 263 sq.</ref></ref> in it, but there is no such source cited in full anywhere in the article (and "sq." isn't an abbreviation we use).

Meanwhile this semi-related source was dumped onto the end of the article, but is not cited inline anywhere, so I'm removing it:

  • Feest, Johannes (2015). "Abolition in the times of pre-crime: A view from Germany". In Mathiesen, Thomas (ed.). The Politics of Abolition Revisited. Milton Park / New York: Routledge. ISBN 9781138687691. – page numbers missing

 — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also potentially relevant, from recent Canadian news: Woolf, Marie (29 February 2024). "Justice Minister defends house arrest power for people feared to commit a hate crime in future". The Globe and Mail. 18:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)