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Was the Carlton Gardens actually proposed for World Heritage listing along with the RoyalEx Building? I doubt that it was. Hypernovean 12:12, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Not only was it nominated it has in fact now received world heritage status including the gardens.
All the Carlton Gardens are included. There are several very rare mature plant species in the gardens. Check out the listing at the Victorian Heritage Register and the statement of significance which reads in part:

All the mature trees and palms, including avenues, rows and individuals growing in the Carlton Gardens including the following species:.... All of the Crown Land Reserve Rs 9990 (Carlton Gardens) and Rs 37130 (Royal Exhibition Building and Museum of Victoria), crown allotment 19A, shown on Diagram 1501 held by the Executive Director, being the land bounded by Rathdowne Street, Carlton Street, Nicholson Street and Victoria Parade. --Takver 05:30, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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The fact` is that the article by Arnold Zable's article represents a major part of the history of one of Melbourne's historic sites of significance. If you took the time to read the full context of the supplementary post (Which has now been removed from the Wikipedia site), You would have noticed that it details historical events related to the public campaign to try and prevent tht development of Melbourne's Museum o this site. The content presented the minutes of a public forum that was held in the Royal Exhibition Buildings. The content opf the minutes was and as relevant to Melbourne's history and in particular the Royal Exhibition Buildings, I want the link restored. It was as a result of this campaign that the Royal Exhibition Buildings along with the Carlton Gardens was eventually nominated for World Heritage. You may wish to rewrite history or prevent this story from being told but ask your self are you acting in the in the public's interest by seeking to prevent this information ad historical facts from being known.. NO,. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melbcity (talkcontribs)

The above relates to The Dome - Melbourne's Royal Exhibition Building which is an extended version of the Zable article (below) and which I have now submitted to AfD. -- RHaworth 09:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Removed Zable article and commentary[edit]

This article is very interesting, but it's not suitable to appear verbatim in Wikipedia. Maybe in Wikisource? --Robert Merkel 22:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The Dome[edit]

By Arnold Zable. Published 26 September 1996

No subject to copyright. Permission for republication given copies of which were also published in a community News bulletin maintained in the Victorian State Library

First published in the Age September 26, 1996 permission granted by the author for its re-publication.

Post Editor: Anthony van der Craats, former Councillor, National Trust of Australia (Victoria)1996-1999


Author's Comment made in 1996 in relation to Jeff Kennett, Premier of Victoria 1992 - 1999

We have a state government that loves to congratulate itself on its great works, and on the way it is transforming the city. But the reality is, that it is intruding into our parks and gardens, making crucial decisions with little consultation, and without regard to overall strategic planning. And in the process it has left a lot of people feeling powerless, disenfranchised and unwilling to speak out.


THE article by Arnold Zable, printed in full above, records a significant turning point in the history of the Melbourne's Royal Exhibition Building and it's nomination for World Heritage, the development of Melbourne's Museum and the campaign to have the Museum of Victoria relocated.

It records part of the missing chapter in the history of the [Royal Exhibition Building] written by David Dunstan, historian prior to the relocation of Museum of Victoria.


IN 1996 a meeting between John Brumby, former leader of the Victorian State opposition, Trevor Huggard, former City of Melbourne Lord Mayor and member of the Exhibition Building Trustees, Sigmund Jorgensen, Montsalvat Arts Foundation and Anthony van der Craats, Carlton resident and community activist, took place in the Victorian State Parliament to discuss issues of concern and opposition to the then proposed development of Melbourne Museum adjacent to the Royal Exhibition Building.

It was at this meeting that John Brumby first proposed and supported the listing of the Royal Exhibition Building and the Carlton Gardens on the World Heritage List in hope that the nomination would cause Jeff Kennett, Premier of Victoria 1992-1996, to rethink the proposed development of Melbourne's Museum in the Carlton Gardens. At the time Jeff Kennett opposed the World Heritage Listing. The Royal Exhibition Building had previously been suggested for nomination but no firm action or policy had been made until this meeting.

In 1979 history has recorded that Jeff Kennett, as a Liberal State Minister, proposed the demolition of the Royal Exhibition Building. Whilst he managed to demolish the Royal Ball Room he was unsuccessful in his desire to see the Royal Exhibition Building demolished.

The National Trust's expert building committee opposed the design and development of Melbourne's Museum citing that the development was not in keeping with the scale, design and significance of the site. Dr Miles Lewis, Architectural Historian ICOMOS and member of the National Trust's historic building committee expressed serious concern at the failure of the Kennett State Government to subject the proposed development to a proper planning process and assessment.

The Board of the National Trust, who had an on going business relationship and close association with the Museum of Victoria, overturned, to the dismay of it's members, the recommendation of the Trust's expert committee.

In December 1996 Anthony van der Craats, was elected to the Board of Directors of the National Trust of Australia (Victoria) in opposition to the determination of the Board to overturn the recommendation of the expert committee. He served as a Councillor of the National Trust for three years until 1999. He was later joined by fellow activists Mary-lou Jellbart and Julianne Bell both who were elected to the Board of the National Trust in 1997 and 1999 respectively.

Whilst the community campaign to stop the Museum development in 1996 was unsuccessful, John Brumby, who later became Victoria's Treasure under the [Steve Bracks|Bracks] Government in late 1999, recommended for approval the nomination the Royal Exhibition Building and Carlton Gardens for World Heritage Listing. Approval was subsequently granted by the Federal Government who, as signatory to the [UNESCO] [Treaty], formally applied for World Heritage classification of this truly unique building which continues to play a significant role in Melbourne's cultural development.

The Royal Exhibition building is Australia's first building to listed for World Heritage.

There continues to be ongoing concern and issues related to the Museum of Victoria which was built adjacent to the Royal Exhibition Building prior to the World Heritage Listing.

The following persons deserve recognition for their contributions for the preservation of this magnificent historical Melbourne Icon.

Trevor Huggard, former Lord Mayor of Melbourne and Exhibition Trustee Linton Lethlean, former Director Exhibition Trustees, who faithfully restored the Royal Exhibition Building to its original 2001 design Mark Duckworth, former Melbourne City Councillor and member of the Exhibition Trustees Miles Lewis, for his endless work and professionalism in supporting the nomination for World Heritage. David Dunstan, historian who wrote the history of the Royal Exhibition Buildings and the Carlton Community who have been its protector and neighbour without whom the Carlton Gardens and the Royal Exhibition Building would not exist today.

http://antiwikipedia.com/Melbourne_Royal_Exhibition_Building_-_Public_Forum_26_May_1999#Motions

http://antiwikipedia.com/Melbourne_Royal_Exhibition_Building_-_The_Dome

Australian flag[edit]

The article does not mention the REB was the place the Australian flag was flown for the first time.

58.170.7.61 05:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)