Talk:W. G. Grace's cricket career (1864 to 1870)

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Choice of timespan[edit]

Since WG made his first-class debut in 1865, wouldn't it be more natural to make the chosen timespan for this article 1865-1870 rather than 1866-1870? JH (talk page) 17:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly, perhaps probably. But he was only 16 when he made his first-class debut in 1865 so I included that in the development section of the main article as it seems logical to culminate his childhood and youth with his arrival on the first-class scene, especially as he only made five appearances in 1865. My present idea is to reduce the 1866 to 1870 section of the main article to a summary after I've developed this article, so it's following the same pattern as 1878 which I did last year. When this is done, I'll think about 1865 again when I can see how the main article looks. However, if you really believe this article should be 1865-1870 then go ahead and rename it. WG is a major project and I will surely need all the help I can get. At the other extreme, I want to do 1871 as a single season like 1878 and, ultimately, 1895. Nice to hear from you again, by the way. ----Jack | ^{talk page} 19:07, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. 1876 might also merit its own article, being - if I remember correctly - the season where he famously aggregated over 800 runs in three consecutive innings. Incidentally I've just come across a link to a splendid poem about WG by none other than Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I think it splendidly catches the essence of WG. JH (talk page) 21:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent poem. I must try and use it somehow. I wrote out At Lord's in the 1878 Grace article. I agree about 1876. ----Jack | ^{talk page} 21:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, Grace himself considered his "first-class" career to have begun in 1864. Certainly it was in this season, especially his big century at Hove, when he made his name in leading cricket circles. I've therefore expanded the scope to include 1864 and 1865. ----Jack | ^{talk page} 07:22, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]