Talk:Webster University Thailand

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Our University, Webster University Thailand, as added our page to provide information about the university. We are currently listed on [1] and would like to provide the information to people wishing to follow through to our link. We believe that the information we have provided will allow users to better understand our university.

Thank you

WebsterThailand (talk) 16:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

status

I removed the promotional material to prevent deletion. Please do not add it back. DGG (talk) 16:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Ongoing Spam/POV issues

Continued vandalism is coming in from IP addresses owned by Webster University Thailand's marketing department in Bangkok. These users continually delete neutral information and replace it with advertorial content lacking 3rd party references, linking only to the Webster homepage itself, i.e. claiming "accreditation" without 3rd party sources, along with heavily promotional wording. Sayoon3 (talk) 15:15, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Inkyhack (talk) 15:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)Continued vandalism also is coming from a non-Webster IP address in Thailand that is continually adding incorrect information to this page, such as the name of the President or the country of the University's home base.

Inkyhack is a marketing employee from WUT campus in Thailand. He used to use the handle WebsterThailand which was blocked for 7 years of vandalism. Now, despite the definition of University President on Wikipedia guidelines, he continues trying to hide the fact that WUT has only Indian administrators and no American management whatsoever. Sayoon3 (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Inkyhack (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Sayoon3 has a personal vendetta against Webster University Thailand and continues to place false and malicious information on this page, including falsely claiming that I work in Thailand. I do not. I am an U.S. resident.

Inkyhack (talk) 16:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Sayoon3 is vandalising the page, removing sources and inserting incorrect information. It appears Sayoon3 account is a vandal-only account.

@Inkyhack: Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:46, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Inkyhack (talk) 15:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC) Incorrect information has been placed on this page. Webster University Thailand is not a stand-alone University, but is a campus of Webster University based in the United States. As a result, it would not have an endowment by itself. Rather, it's endowment is part of the overall University's endowment of more than $111 million. Also, Ratish Thakur is not the "president." That would be Elizabeth (Beth) J. Stroble. Thakur is the "rector," a fancy academic-y title for "director." Finally, the links to CollegeTimes leads to incorrect information. The university has multiple accreditations, which I had previously linked to with third-party non Webster.edu links. Those have all been removed for unknown reasons. Finally, there are numerous Americans who are on the administration at Webster University Thailand, including Grant Chapman http://www.webster.edu/arts-and-sciences/graduate-programs/internationalrelations/chapman.html who is the person who oversees all of Webster Univeristy's international campuses. Chapman is Ratish Thakur's boss, which is further proof that Ratish is not the "president," nor is the campus "Indian-managed." This, of course leads to an even bigger point - why does the ethnicity of employees matter? This smacks as outright racism and should be removed immediately.

Inkyhack (talk) 17:20, 13 February 2015 (UTC) The links to Collegetimes should be blacklisted from Wikipedia. The site has been sued for malicious reviews and falsifying information and for removing positive reviews of universities and colleges that the staff has had disputes with. http://www.neumont.edu/cmsdocuments/Neumont_Prevails_in_First_Court_Appearance_Against_CollegeTimes.pdf http://dockets.justia.com/docket/nevada/nvdce/2:2012cv01395/89285/

Multiple Errors repeatedly added to this page

Numbering these items for responses

1. Incorrect information has been placed on this page. Webster University Thailand is not a stand-alone University, but is a campus of Webster University based in the United States. As a result, it would not have an endowment by itself, nor should it even be called a "university" but rather a "campus of a university." The endowment is part of the overall University's endowment of more than $111 million of Webster University. #Also, Ratish Thakur is not the "president." That would be Elizabeth (Beth) J. Stroble. Thakur is the "rector," a fancy academic-y title for "director." Oddly enough, the link added by whomever put in the wrong information, correctly points out he is the rector. I would not change the link, but the title at least should be changed from "President" to "Rector" or "director" (a change I previously made that was undone).
2. Finally, the links to CollegeTimes leads to incorrect information, including that the University is unaccredited. The university has multiple accreditations, which I had previously linked to with third-party non Webster.edu links. Those have all been removed for unknown reasons.
3. Finally, there are numerous Americans who are on the administration at Webster University Thailand, including Grant Chapman http://www.webster.edu/arts-and-sciences/graduate-programs/internationalrelations/chapman.html who is the person who oversees all of Webster Univeristy's international campuses. Chapman is Ratish Thakur's boss, which is further proof that Ratish is not the "president," nor is the campus "Indian-managed." This, of course leads to an even bigger point - why does the ethnicity of employees matter? This smacks as outright racism and should be removed immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inkyhack (talk • contribs) 15:45, 13 February 2015‎ (UTC)

From review of the article and its version history, since the request was made:

1. The verbiage was changed since the request to "Webster University in Thailand is an extended international location of Webster University from St. Louis, Missouri, USA." The contributor(s) added three sources.  Done
2. The verbiage was changed since the request to "The director of the campus in Thailand is Ratish Thakur." - the source says rector, but director means the same thing without confusion with a religious definition. So, that looks good.  Done
3. The Accreditation section now starts out "Webster University is accredited by the Higher Learning Commission, which covers the University's campus in Thailand." and lists more accreditation information. Done
4. There is now a cite sentence "University’s international campuses, study abroad opportunities, international programs, the Confucius Institute, and the Center for International Education are overseen by Grant Chapman, JD."  Done

So, I am marking this as addressed.--CaroleHenson (talk) 11:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Protection

Okay, I rarely do this, but I lifted protection since the editors have a point that it looks like this is affiliated with the US campus. (I don't know whether it's correct, but looks like it is.) I'm stepping away now - but use the talk page to get a consensus as to what goes into the article. Editors simply reverting each other are going to get blocked for edit warring. AlexiusHoratius 17:44, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

The campus is a franchise and pays to use Webster's name and logo, that is the only affiliation with US campus. Endowment is not shared, faculty not shared, curriculum not shared, Director and all his vice directors are from India, most faculty from India or other non-US countries. It is not American, never has been, never will be. Don't assist this for-profit diploma mill in their marketing lies. Faoner (talk) 15:10, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Once again, Faoner spouts misinformation. About one quarter of the faculty rotates through this campus from the United States and European campuses (check out how many white faces are on these pages: http://www.webster.ac.th/academics/faculty/, and this campus is wholly owned and operated by the St. Louis-based Webster University http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/webster-university-2521 http://www.webster.edu/worldwide/asia.html http://www.masterstudies.com/universities/Thailand/Webster-University-Thailand/. As a campus, it does not have its own endowment but rather is part of Webster University's larger endowment. It is an established non-profit university (here are the annual non-profit 990s Webster has to file with the federal government every year, including documents for Thailand - http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/43-0662529/webster-university.aspx that has been accredited and recognized internationally, in the United States and in Thailand http://www.webster.edu/graduate/licenses.html. Inkyhack (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Because of the continued vandalism by a user who apparently has a grudge against Webster University Thailand, I am going to request page protection to keep this in its neutral verison.

Inkyhack is a marketing employee at Webster who was already banned on WebsterThailand. It is illegal and impossible in Thailand to own any entity as a foreign entity, all Thai companies and organizations are majority owned and controlled by Thai entities. WUT is not American, never has been. It's a Thai university with an Indian administration as referenced on their own website, which WUT employees keep censoring from Wikipedia. Their endowment is $0 according to Thai government resources and their share 0% of Webster's US based endowment funds. Unless a user can show proof that WUT has an endowment in Thailand?? ..."check out how many white faces are on these pages"... wow these Webster people are extremely racist. Faoner (talk) 17:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, once again Faoner spouts lies and misinformation about Webster University. This page was fixed by an administrator, and Faoner believes that his paranoid delusional rants are more accurate than the neutral version approved by other users. Webster University is owned and operated wholly by Webster University in the United States, as previously cited and stated. The campus in Thailand is not a stand-alone University but is a campus location run by Webster University, as previously cited and stated. The staff includes many Europeans and Americans, as previously cited and stated. The director of the campus is Indian, but the manager of the campus is an American vice President in the United States, as previously cited and stated. So the real question is, when will Faoner be banned by IP, as he previously was changing this page under the user name Sayoon3 before he was permanently banned. Inkyhack (talk) 23:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Unless WUT marketing (spamming) team can prove that WUT has American administration or American paperwork, its not American. It is a Thai registered business with Indian management, this has been true since 2010 when all Americans were fired from the campus and replaced with 4 Indian administrators. Zero endowment exists according to QA system (CHEQA) in Thai government records for universities. All references provided by Inkyhack above are paperwork for the St. Louis campus, and have absolutely no relation to the WUT campus in Thailand. Faoner (talk) 18:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

User Faoner is continuing to vandalize the page and spread misinformation. Webster University in Thailand is administered by and is a branch of Webster University from St. Louis, MO, USA.

These references are from the American government, not Thai government, but you aren't that stupid are you, WUT marketing team? Sign your damn comments Faoner (talk) 04:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Webster campus in Thailand holds dual accreditation, first by Higher Learning Commission, USA and local accreditation is awarded by Office of the Higher Education, Thailand(The University also holds special accreditation from ACBSP)Poinsot9 (talk) 07:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

References

Unless compelling, documented evidence exists to suggest otherwise, Webster Thailand is clearly designated as an international campus of Webster University in St. Louis. That status is an independent issue, separate from the administrative problems cited at the Thailand campus in the early 2010s. I have provided the necessary details below and will therefore proceed with removing several of the mischaracterized statements that currently exist on the entry. (Note that the final point also directly contradicts the claim that the "Director and all his vice directors are from India, most faculty from India or other non-US countries."

1: Webster's own internal report, shared on Inside Higher Ed reviewed several of the aforementioned issues, clearly indicated that the Thailand campus is under its direct supervision and articulated the line of reporting:

"In June 2014, Provost Julian Schuster announced the initiation of a series of comprehensive reviews of Webster’s international campuses, to include assessment of each campus’ facilities, financial matters, human resources, country-specific accreditation (if applicable), academics, student academic support, student life and services, and safety."

"Webster University – Thailand (WUT), with locations in Bangkok and Cha-am, was selected as the first of the international campuses to be reviewed."

"Like Webster’s other international campuses (with the exception of China locations), Webster University –Thailand is led by a Director, who reports to the Associate Vice President for Academic Affairs & Director of International Programs."

2: That same report states that the Thailand campus is accredited by the Higher Learning Commission (HLC), which can be confirmed on the HLC website, where it indicates that "The institution’s accreditation includes courses and programs at..." all of its domestic and international campuses, including Thailand. Webster Thailand has also accredited by the Accreditation Council for Business Schools & Programs (ACBSP) since 2008, as indicated on their site.

3: Webster University's website clearly lists all of its domestic and international campuses, and does not differentiate between them. Moreover, in respect to leadership, the appointment of the current rector, Ryan Guffey, in 2018 again clearly suggests that the Thailand campus is directly overseen by the home campus in the United States.

References

Kuruzovich (talk) 5:30, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Idented postings to track conversation.--CaroleHenson (talk) 11:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Continued vandalism and attempts to silence criticism.

Like to take a moment and point out that all links in the criticism section are independent validated accounts of the unethical behavior of the Webster Thailand administration and that user: jake9977 is behaving in a was that is reminiscent of the sock-puppetry of user:websterthailand, a banned account which has been found to behave in precisely this manner.

The overwhelmingly large amount of negative information from the international press, personal accounts and internal Webster documentation speaks for itself and the only reason this administration continues to exist is because they are getting enough students to balance the budget, should this change they will be out of the job. they continue to silence any dissidence which could cause them to lose prospective students and the continued vandalism and removal of the criticism section is prove of this.

Provide specific justification and cited sources for why individual sections should be removed. wikipedia is not a marketing source and any valid independent information about the topic must be acknowledged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasikb (talk • contribs) 20:15, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Webster Thailand No Longer Exists

For those of you keeping track, Webster Thailand Campus is no longer in service. It was closed several years back. 91.72.227.38 (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)