Template:Did you know nominations/Celia M. Burleigh

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Celia M. Burleigh[edit]

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... that Celia M. Burleigh became the first woman pastor ordained into the Unitarian ministry?
Source 1 Mangan 2015, p. 230 - On October 5, 1871, Burleigh became the first woman ever ordained in Connecticut, as well as the first woman ordained by the Unitarian Church.
Source 2 Franck 1995, p. 170 - Celia M. Burleigh became the first ordained woman minister in the Unitarian Church, serving in Brooklyn, Connecticut.
Source 3 Cooke 1902, p. 370 - The first woman ordained to the Unitarian ministry was Mrs. Celia C. Burleigh, who was settled over the parish in Brooklyn, Connecticut, October 5, 1871.
Source 4 Kane 1997, p. 478 - "The first woman ordained as a Unitarian minister was Celia C. Burleigh, who was given a parish in Brooklyn,CT, on October 5, 1871."
Source 5 Murdock 1976, p. 49 - The first woman ordained into the Unitarian ministry was Mrs. Celia C. Burleigh who was settled in the parish in Brooklyn, Connecticut on October 5, 1871.
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Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Insane Clown President

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 14:46, 26 January 2018 (UTC).

Comment. @Doug Coldwell:: Both article and hook link to Unitarian Church, which is is a redirect to a long disambiguation page. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:04, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Thanks for noting! I have corrected it to a better link. Does that look correct to you?--Doug Coldwell (talk)

@Doug Coldwell: that solves the ambiguity, but it opens up a new problem. Unitarianism says "a Christian theological movement", "Unitarianism does not constitute one single Christian denomination". Unitarianism#United_States says "Unitarian Christian Conference USA is a network of congregations and ministers". So "the Unitarian Church" seems wrong. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:13, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: changed to "Unitarian ministry" -> is that better? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, @Doug Coldwell: that's definitely better. Looking at he sources, I see Mangan's wording[1] is "first woman ordained by the Unitarian Church". That is similar to your original hook, in which you used the source accurately, but such inappropriate terminology does make me a little nervous about the reliability of the source. I'll leave it to the reviewer to decide how significant that is. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:58, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

- New review needed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:22, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- Starting new review. Zeete (talk) 12:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
New, long enough per DYK check, over 3,000 length; cited; neutral; also known as Celia Burleigh; Earwig reports violation unlikely, 1.0%; hook interesting, cited, but...
The article has "first female pastor appointed into the Unitarian ministry", similar but not exactly the same as the hook wording. Sources use "first woman ordained to the Unitarian ministry" Needs to be consistent. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:40, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Changed "female" to "woman" for consistency

Do you also want to change "appointed" to "ordained" in the article? Thanks, Zeete (talk) 14:14, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

change "appointed" to "ordained" --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Unitarian Church disambiguation: in particular should this be Unitarian Universalism to match the article First Unitarian Congregational Society that has red-link to Celia Burleigh? Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:40, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Changed Unitarian ministry link to Unitarian Universalism. Also wikified the red link of Celia Bureigh to Celia M. Burleigh.

Do you want to change the ministry link in the hook above? Thanks, Zeete (talk) 14:14, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

tweaked hook of ministry link to Unitarian Universalism --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zeete: I believe I corrected as you suggested. @Zeete: Will that work? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Good to go. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 15:17, 31 January 2018 (UTC)