Template:Did you know nominations/Ian Boucard
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:55, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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Ian Boucard[edit]
- ... that French politician Ian Boucard was the announcer at ASM Belfort home matches? Source: "Depuis 2012, il est la voix officielle de l’ASMB puisque c’est lui le speaker officiel du stade Serzian lors des matches de championnat de France." (L'Est Républicain, 19 June 2017); for "was", see this source
ALT1:... that Ian Boucard faced Christophe Grudler in elections in 2008, 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2018? Source: Le Monde, 10 March 2008; Ministère de l'Intérieur, 30 March 2014; Ministère de l'Intérieur, 29 March 2015; France 3 Franche-Comté; L'Est Républicain, 27 January 2018ALT2:... that the election of Ian Boucard in the 2017 French legislative elections was invalidated because his campaign distributed electoral leaflets purportedly originating from other parties? Source: France 3 Franche-Comté, 8 December 2017
- Reviewed: Saleh Kamboh Mosque
- Comment: With regard to ALT1, "faced" is a bit of a stretch – in 2008 and 2014, Boucard was on an electoral list led by Meslot, and in 2015, he was selected as an alternate to Meslot and Besancenot.
Created by Mélencron (talk). Self-nominated at 19:47, 27 January 2018 (UTC).
Article is new and long enough, properly inline cited to a variety of online sources in French. I detected a slight copying (direct translation) in the two sentences starting "As municipal councillor, he was charged with" but as this concerns pretty factual matter it's not a great concern and overall the article appears within policy concerning copyvio/close paraphrasing, and also with regard to neutrality. Photo appears to be properly licensed.I wonder about the language a few places, like "was elected on position 7 of 45". Should it be nominated, instead of elected, and is "on position" good language? And is robbery the correct word for what he is accused of? As for the hook, I think the main hook is straightforward, sourced and interesting. I removed the word "official" as I think an announcer per definition will be official. Tell me, if you disagree. I would caution against ALT2 because it may unduly focus on negative aspects of an individual, although one may of course argue that in this case the issue is so significant for the person's career that it's not undue. I also stroke ALT1 since you yourself say it is a bit of a stretch. The guy is currently involved in an election and should not be featured on the main page before 5 February. The article should also be updated by the election result before it is featured. Iselilja (talk) 22:27, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, and I agree that the article shouldn't be featured until after the second round of the by-election. Mélencron (talk) 22:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Wow. I just started thinking about whether the source for him being announcer was up to date. And then I found this source: "« J’étais bénévole à l’ASMB Foot. J’ai été entraîneur et responsable de la communication pendant 9 ans. Mais j’ai dû abandonner ce poste fin juin, c’était dur de cumuler. Comme je l’ai déjà dit, c’est grâce à cela que j’ai fait mon entrée en politique." So, it seems like he may have left the announcer post? Could you find out of this, so we know that the hook will be accurate? Iselilja (talk) 22:42, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Ooh, I saw that source but didn't look at it closely because it was a student paper. I'll look again. Mélencron (talk) 23:26, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'll just go right ahead and use it, actually – can't find it from other sources, but I doubt that it's false. Mélencron (talk) 23:31, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Iselilja: The election's happened, he's returned to the National Assembly, and I've updated the article accordingly. Mélencron (talk) 13:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Article is now updated with result from byelection. The hook for being an announcer has been changed to past tense, based on this source "« J’étais bénévole à l’ASMB Foot. J’ai été entraîneur et responsable de la communication pendant 9 ans. Mais j’ai dû abandonner ce poste fin juin, c’était dur de cumuler." This is also updated/corrected and sourced in article. Article should therefore be ready to go. Iselilja (talk) 19:20, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Iselilja: The election's happened, he's returned to the National Assembly, and I've updated the article accordingly. Mélencron (talk) 13:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'll just go right ahead and use it, actually – can't find it from other sources, but I doubt that it's false. Mélencron (talk) 23:31, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Ooh, I saw that source but didn't look at it closely because it was a student paper. I'll look again. Mélencron (talk) 23:26, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Wow. I just started thinking about whether the source for him being announcer was up to date. And then I found this source: "« J’étais bénévole à l’ASMB Foot. J’ai été entraîneur et responsable de la communication pendant 9 ans. Mais j’ai dû abandonner ce poste fin juin, c’était dur de cumuler. Comme je l’ai déjà dit, c’est grâce à cela que j’ai fait mon entrée en politique." So, it seems like he may have left the announcer post? Could you find out of this, so we know that the hook will be accurate? Iselilja (talk) 22:42, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
