Template:Did you know nominations/Sophia Rosenhane
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The result was: rejected by Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:56, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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Sophia Rosenhane[edit]
- ... that ....Sophia Rosenhane's (pictured) portrait was featured amongst six of the most famous Swedish women in history in the first national portrait gallery at Gripsholm Castle?
- Reviewed:John Kalili
Created by User:BabbaQ ([[User talk:|talk]]). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) at 13:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC).
QPQ done (BabbaQ: It would be helpful if you in the future hyperlinked to the QPQ review). Article is new enough, but a bit short when I use this character counter, about 1300 characters. Previous experience may indicate that maybe that counter is a bit lower than the Wiki-counter, so I am open to counter-argument about length. The article is inline sourced to Swedish online sources which I can read. The source for the hook is avblixten.info which I don't know whether is a reliable source; the text there is to a large degree identical with the text at Swedish Wikipedia, which is also used in translated form in this English entry; I don't know who has copied who. Also while sources 2 and 4 are used to back up the statement "a financier and respected patron of the arts", I don't see it in those two sources (but it is in the avblixten.info source). The photo is labelled "own work" and I assume good faith that it is legit. Iselilja (talk) 21:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review :) I will hyperlink in the future, thanks. I believe when I watched the count that it was just about on the right side of the 1500 character mark, in my opinion the Wikicounter should be the mark for counting. Anyway, from what I understand it the avblixten source is the basis for the Swedish article on Sw Wiki and not the other way around so it is a legitimate source. I am assuming good faith from what other users back at SW wiki has told me. I also changed the source on the statement that you brought to my attention. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding so quickly. Could you tell me what kind of source the avblixten.info is ? I couldn't find any information at the homepage. If Swedish Wikipedia has used avblixten as source, there is a copyright violation as several sentences are copied verbatim, unless the Avblixten source is out of copyright. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 22:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- No problem! Well, I am not really involved in SW Wiki that much but I will bring your opinion up over there as well so users can deal with any potential issues! But that does not apply to this article as it is sourced with other sources as well. From what I can tell Avblixten is a legit site that are filled with a huge variety of information concerning notable Swedes made by a webmaster with knowldge I assume. --BabbaQ (talk) 23:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Since you have translated the Swedish version, the copyvio applies to this article as well. The whole first paragraph of the Life section in the article is identical to the text in the Avblixten source. It may well be that the Avblixten text is dated and out of copyright (taken from some old encyclopedia), but we need to know whether the source is out of copyright and whether the source is reliable. I am not convinced just by looking at the website, where I can't even find information about who is behind it. Unless the source is out of copyright, it will be very difficult to write around the copyvio, since the source is so short and the other sources you have don't really provide much information. Unfortunately, I may have to decline this article. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:25, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- No problem! Well, I am not really involved in SW Wiki that much but I will bring your opinion up over there as well so users can deal with any potential issues! But that does not apply to this article as it is sourced with other sources as well. From what I can tell Avblixten is a legit site that are filled with a huge variety of information concerning notable Swedes made by a webmaster with knowldge I assume. --BabbaQ (talk) 23:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding so quickly. Could you tell me what kind of source the avblixten.info is ? I couldn't find any information at the homepage. If Swedish Wikipedia has used avblixten as source, there is a copyright violation as several sentences are copied verbatim, unless the Avblixten source is out of copyright. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 22:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review :) I will hyperlink in the future, thanks. I believe when I watched the count that it was just about on the right side of the 1500 character mark, in my opinion the Wikicounter should be the mark for counting. Anyway, from what I understand it the avblixten source is the basis for the Swedish article on Sw Wiki and not the other way around so it is a legitimate source. I am assuming good faith from what other users back at SW wiki has told me. I also changed the source on the statement that you brought to my attention. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
