Template:Did you know nominations/Terukuni Maru (1929)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Terukuni Maru[edit]
... that Japanese ocean liner Terukuni Maru (pictured) was sunk by Nazi mines off of London shortly after Japan signed the Tripartite Pact in 1939?
Created/expanded by MChew (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
or even . Date and length check out, hook is interesting. I can't access the Time reference, and I would normally AGF on its content. However: this is the only source used in the paragraph which contains the cited hook - does it really verify all the facts in the hook? I'm asking this because the article itself indicates (without an apparent source) that there was an ensuing dispute as to who sank the ship - the sinking occurred in September, the article is from December... was this solved within 4 months, or does the rest of the hook require another citation? Which brings us to another issue: important sections, including two paragraphs, are unsourced (in general, this makes the article technically non-eligible, so consider fixing it). Again, this includes part of the cited hook: although it is common sense that the incident came after the pact, the context is left uncited, and absolutely no reference is cited to verify that whole diplomatic incidents story in the last paragraph. Overall, the references use inconsistent, redundant or incomplete, chaotic formats, and two of them (2 and 5, the latter of which is for the hook) are bare links - please fix that, with whatever format you prefer, as long as it is just one used throughout the text. A minor, but still pesky issue: the notes seem to be randomly placed in the text: some come in after an extra space, some come before punctuation (the manual of style recommends after punctuation). I'm afraid that, in this stage, the article can't make it on the front page - please re-read the eligibility criteria. Dahn (talk) 09:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Issues still present after 2 weeks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I revised the article, using sources that were listed but had not been cited. The hook fact about the sinking is now supported by additional sources, but the hook is not valid because the article about the Tripartite Pact indicates that it was signed the following year. Additionally, there are a couple of sentences in the first paragraph of "History" that aren't sourced, but the paragraph has several citations. Here are some alternate hooks to consider:
- ALT1: ... that Japanese ocean liner Terukuni Maru (pictured) was sunk by Nazi mines off the English coast in 1939, when Japan and Germany were allied?
- ALT2: ... that the sinking of the Japanese ocean liner Terukuni Maru (pictured) by Nazi mines off the English coast in 1939 may have been Japan's first World War II casualty outside East Asia?
- Time for a re-review! --Orlady (talk) 16:48, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
