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April 2022[edit]

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Kenard, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Do not redirect an article yourself if you believe it is not notable. Rather, read WP:N first, then if you still believe it is not notable, start a discussion at WP:AFD. Thank you. interstatefive (talk) - just another roadgeek 00:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. See previous comment. interstatefive (talk) - just another roadgeek 00:25, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Dude, what makes you think I'm "engaged in a content dispute" and where do you get off giving an orange warning? I made two edits, and I immediately stopped when I first saw your message (my second edit was made at literally the same minute you left your first message at my talk page). How about you reply to my message (at your talk page) and address the merits of the edit, rather than slapping infantilizing warnings around. 61.18.156.43 (talk) 00:31, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Stan Valchek, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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New message from Interstatefive[edit]

Hello, 61.18.156.43. You have new messages at Interstatefive's talk page.
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interstatefive (talk) - just another roadgeek 00:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New message from Interstatefive[edit]

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interstatefive (talk) - just another roadgeek 00:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mass Proposed Deletion of articles[edit]

I see you've applied {{Prod}} tags to dozens of articles related to The Wire. I'm not going to comment on the quality of the articles, but if you want to delete a large group of articles, you should list them at WP:Articles For Deletion where a community discussion can take place. I've reverted all your Proposed Deletion tags on those articles. Toddst1 (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course that's the intention—the whole point of prod is to try it first and see if there are objections, and if objections arise then move to discussion at either AfD or a talk page. That is exactly what is happening now. I'll go ahead and start the AfD soon. 61.18.156.43 (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remove of content w/o consensus (The Wire)[edit]

Hi,

I have reverted the changes you have made in a lot of articles related to The Wire characters. Please, reach first a consensus in the discussion you started before going ahead. Be patient, as this matters need time to have enough inputs from the community. Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is just more stonewalling. If you review previous edits about this, you'll see that pretty much every time I raise the issue, people say "have a discussion about it" and then when I try to open the discussion they don't reply. The abovementioned discussion that I opened sat there for 9 days with no comment. So it seems like the strategy WP editors take nowadays is say "don't change stuff without having a discussion", and then they refuse to have the discussion, so no one can change stuff.

WP:BRD-NOT already has guidelines about this: as it says there, if you don't want to have a discussion, then don't tell others to wait for discussion.

I tried to open a discussion (in addition to posting the thread itself, I also posted notifications on the relevant article talk pages and a bunch of users' talk pages), I waited patiently, no one said anything, and then once I tried to do the stuff that nobody had objected to, only then suddenly people start crawling out of the woodwork to say I should have more discussion? Give me a break.

Does anyone actually have a substantive reason to not redirect these articles? Or am I just going to keep getting stonewalled for procedural nonsense while nobody addresses the actual content issue? 61.18.156.43 (talk) 09:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You got a number of reverts, which means there is no consensus yet. You can try Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. MarioGom (talk) 15:26, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(1) None of the people reverting actually said anything in the discussion, so as I already said above, everyone is just telling me to discuss but not actually willing to participate in discussion themselves. Now you are doing exactly the thing I just criticized (just complaining about procedure but refusing to respond to the substantive content issue). Of course there is "no consensus" if people just refuse to engage in discussion. Nothing you have said contradicts the points I actually made; you seem to be instead responding to a point I didn't actually make (did you bother to actually look into the issue before just leaving a drive-by comment?).

(2) If you actually look at the discussion, you will see that I already explained there my reasons for not trying AfD. 61.18.156.43 (talk) 17:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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