User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Discuss/Archive/2006/July

I can't log in either

Hi, thank you for approving me to use VandalProof.

I do have a problem: I see this error message when I try to log in. "You might have entered an incorrect username." I am using the MonoBook skin. I don't believe I editied the MonoBook.js or any other .js file that I rememeber. I logged out of Wikipeda before I tried logging into ValdalProof. Also I cannot log into Wikipeida using VandalProof. I have disabled my software proxy server.

I do see a message saying: "Welcome to VandalProof, Starionwolf!"

I am using a Linksys wifi-broadband router and Windows XP. If you need any more information, let me know.

Thanks. --Starionwolf 23:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind - I accidently disabled cookies in Internet Explorer. After I enabled cookies, I can login now. Thanks for reading the message. Keep up the good work! --Starionwolf 23:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, glad you got it fixed. Feel free to post here if you have any further problems. AmiDaniel (talk) 00:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Namespace change

Well 1.2 is out, and it fixed many of the bugs in 1.1. In fact, I think the program is stable enough to move into the Wikipedia namespace. I assume if this was done it would need to happen in 1.3, so the new pages loaded. What is your opinion? Prodego ^talk 00:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes, I've actually been thinking about migrating it over there myself. One of my concerns is that having it in "my" userspace sort-of implies that "I am the owner of VandalProof MWUHAHAHAHA," which should not be the case at all--it really is a community project; I'm just doing the coding. Also with the new "NEWSECTIONLINK" feature, there's no real reason to keep the discuss, bugs, etc. pages in user talk space, and I think they may fit better in Projectspace. There's also this cross-namespace WP:VandalProof shortcut that I could see being deleted in the near future, which would certainly not be the case if VP is in projectspace. My only real concern would be that people have now grown accustomed to using these pages (myself included), and it might lead to confusion if they're suddenly moved over. I'm also not entirely sure of exact criteria as far as tools go, regarding what can be hosted in projectspace and what cannot. In any case, I certainly would not object to moving them to projectspace, but I'd prefer to perform the moves myself and only after there's been some discussion about the matter. AmiDaniel (talk) 00:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you keep it in userspace until you have the IE errors ironed out =P --mboverload@ 18:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

The current layout is very sloppy, tools such as WP:AWB reside in the namespace, blah blah. Go for it. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 18:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

AWB is still a work in progress and has WP status. Go for it! haz (user talk) 07:13, 10 June 2006

Run-time error 13

I realised there was a bug-report page, so I moved this. Sorry for not seeing that before now. Clq 17:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

help

How do you work the global whitelist/blacklist? ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 20:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

User Tools -> Import/Export lists. Prodego ^talk 20:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Password?

I downloaded the zip file but when I try to extract the file it says the file is password protected. Did I miss receiving a password? Thanks, --Alabamaboy 18:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

That's odd, I have no problem extracting, which file did you download (link please). Prodego ^talk 18:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Just download the exe silly! =) --mboverload@ 18:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

In answer to Mboverload, you need both. Prodego ^talk 18:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

? No you don't. --mboverload@ 18:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, unless you already have 1.1 it is my understanding you need the zip to install the files to the system32 folder. Prodego ^talk 18:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Apologies on being slow to respond but life intruded. I downloaded the VandalProof 120.zip file. When I tried to unzip the download it said a password was needed. I should also note I did not have the earlier 1.1 files.--Alabamaboy 19:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

It worked fine for me, I just renamed the file to .zip, right clicked, and selected extract all. Is this how you are unzipping it? If not try it that way. Prodego ^talk 19:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Adding the .zip to the file name enabled me to extract it without the password request. Weird. Ah well. Many thanks.--Alabamaboy 19:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem, happy editing! Prodego ^talk 19:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Er, in the interest of full disclosure, this problem resulted from user error. Basically, I download the files with Mozilla Firefox and it botched the files to heck and back. Once I downloaded with IE (gad, I hate that program but there are times when its useful) everything worked perfectly. Apologies for the trouble.--Alabamaboy 19:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I guess today's the day I bring a bit of pain into everyone's life. The program runs fine right up until the moment it tells me my log-in request failed b/c Alabamaboy is an incorrect user name. The program then shuts down. My user name is on the list and I'm typing it in exactly as I log-in here. Any thoughts on what to do? Thanks, --Alabamaboy 19:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Continued on Alabamaboy's talk page. Prodego ^talk 19:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you have cookies set?Eagle talk 15:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Rolling back through multiple edits

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but it seems like when one rolls back edits by a user who's done more than one, it rolls back to that user's very first entry rather than the first in the most recent chain of edits.

So for example if you have:

1. (cur) (last) 19:07, 25 May 2006 66.56.147.120 (→Symbolism)
2. (cur) (last) 19:07, 25 May 2006 66.56.147.120 (→Silent Hill movie)
3. (cur) (last) 19:07, 25 May 2006 66.56.147.120 (→Physical appearance)
4. (cur) (last) 19:07, 25 May 2006 66.56.147.120 (→History)
5. (cur) (last) 19:01, 25 May 2006 InShaneee m (Added lots of useful info)
6. (cur) (last) 18:58, 25 May 2006 66.56.147.120 (→Symbolism)
7. (cur) (last) 10:21, 25 May 2006 203.129.39.248 (→Physical appearance)

It will try to roll back all the way to 7, rather than to 5, thus potentially erasing useful info. Is there any way to make it roll back only as far as 5?

Cheers — SteveRwanda 19:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hm, well, that should not be the case. When it reverts (currently, I've made some changes in the next release where it doesn't work this way), all it does is replace the current version with the version on the left side of the screen. When you right click on a rollback button, or when it prompts you to view all edits by the user, it then provides the diff between 1 and 5, and offers you the option to revert the change. If it's not working that way, then you have a rather serious bug. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I have a similar problem to this. Sometimes, when attempting to revert multiple vandalism edits by a single user, I'll click the "Yes" button to rollback all edits. It will then take me to what is supposedly that last good version. Sometimes, it takes me back farther than I want to go, and I sometimes revert good edits. Now, I simply do it manually by comparing the edits in the history log. - Zepheus 17:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Can't log on to Vandal Proof

I had asked to be put on the list of users and got a message on my talk page that I was approved but I still can't get onto VandalProof. Can anyone help me on this? Thank you.--Jersey Devil 03:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks like you got it figured out already. Let me know if you need anymore help. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, the message "Your log-in request failed." still comes up and I can't load any of the lists on the left-screen side but other options I seem to be able to use.--Jersey Devil 10:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Recording mistakes

As good as I'd like to think I am at this, I've made a couple of mistakes but whenever I try to record it, it doesn't seem to go through. Any help with this please? Thanks. Beno1000 12:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

You need to record them using the number of the revert. This can be found either on your vandalism log, or at the end of each warning that you leave (commented out before your sig). Once you find that number, you can just type it in in the prompt, it will ask you to confirm the article and user, and then it will record it. In order to make the mistakes visible to everyone else, you have to load "Update My Page", tab over to VandalismMistakes, and click Update. That will load your mistakes to User:Beno1000/VandalismMistakes. Let me know if you get it figured out. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've figured it out now. Turns out I'd been entering the number given in "(Reverted edits by <user name> (talk) to version 56899975 by <user name> using VandalProof)" rather than the number in the vandalism log. Thanks again. Beno1000 22:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Serious bug?

Since it brought Vandalproof 1.2.0 use to a dead stop, I'm curious: What IS this very serious bug? PrometheusX303 19:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I concur what is it? ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 20:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

DittoEagle talk 20:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I already asked on AmiDaniel's talk page, keep in mind that if this bug threatens the security of the program, Wikipedia, or the people who use the program, we may never know what it was. Prodego ^talk 20:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Knowing amidaniel, he would at least say the bug was a major security hole. If that is the case, I would be shocked... Eagle talk 20:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. If it shouldn't be revealed, then it shouldn't be. If it can be, I'm still curous. PrometheusX303 20:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

We don't know, so assumedly the other moderators don't either. I guess we'll have to wait for AmiD answer. Prodego ^talk 20:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I for one do not know, though I am mirroring the file. Computerjoe's talk 20:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

In an attempt to avoid WP:BEANS, I'm not going to say specifically what the bug was, only that it was relatively simple to repair and that it could have been quite serious if it went unnoticed for much longer, but luckily I stumbled upon it last night. It was quite sad though when I was making great progress on some mind-dazzling new features for VP (RSS-feed, precached rollbacks, utilizing WikiAPI for greater speed, administrative quickblocks, etc.) and then had to go pull up the v1.2.0 source code to repair this bug. But in any case, it should be fixed now, and I do strongly apologize for having to so rudely disable the program and force you all to download the next release; I would have avoided it if I could. As usual, please let me know about any further bugs you find or any ideas you have. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

What I thought from the sound of that...(security hole) Shutting up and trying to be not too shocked Eagle talk 21:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

You apologize too much. What were you supposed to do, wait until somebody found out that by running Vandalproof v1.2.0 and typing "foorpladnav" twenty times on the white list while jamming a butter knife in your computer's USB port and singing "God Bless America" in Yiddish, you are granted the status of "Supreme Overlord of Wikipedia" and the ability to turn vandals into gooey paste with the power of your mind? Puh-lease...
PrometheusX303 12:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Rollback edit summary

I came across an edit summary reading "Reverted edits by Foo (talk) to version 54882798 by Bar using VandalProof", which I presume was generated automatically by this program. Now I know this is useful to promote the program, but it could be a violation of WP:BITE when used to revert newbie tests (as it was in this case). Perhaps the "using VandalProof" should be removed, or replaced with something else. the wub "?!" 00:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Hm.. That's a good point that I never thought of before. Note as well that it leaves edit summaries such as "Welcoming user using VandalProof," not just for reverts, and the program also shouldn't be used to revert anything but obvious vandalism, in which case I think an indication that the edit was vandalism is appropriate. (Note that some tools leave a summary to the extent of "Reverted vandalism by Foobar. Do not compromise the integrity of pages.") The "using VandalProof" isn't just for promotional reasons, but rather to ensure that any abuse of the tool gets reverted here immediately so that it can be dealt with--without the tag-line there's no way of knowing who's using it to do what. So removing it altogether is not an option. With my other tools, I simply add "Semiautomated" to the front, with Semiautomated then linked to the project page, so this may be an option. Or I could just trim down the title to VP. Thoughts, anyone? AmiDaniel (talk) 01:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Trim it down to VP or just link to the tool in the message. ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 02:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

"Reverted edits by Foo (talk) to version 54882798 using VP" sounds good to me - note the pagename used in the link. That way, anyone who needs to can recognise fairly quickly it was done with VandalProof, but newbies are unlikely to see the diff/history and click on the link. --james °o 11:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the change has been implemented to replace "using VandalProof" with "using VP" [1]. Does this look alright to everyone? My one concern with this is that WP:VP takes you to the Village Pump, not here. I'm almost thinking we may need a shortcut like WP:VPRF or WP:VPR, and the edit summary could then become "using VPR VPRF". Thoughts, anyone? AmiDaniel (talk) 01:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Strike VPR as it also leads to the Village Pump, and it appears that someone has already made the VPRF shortcut. AmiDaniel (talk) 01:29, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary when welcoming new users

I noticed that the edit summary when welcoming a user (as in this welcome) says, "Welcoming user using VandalProof". I'm not sure that "welcome" and "vandal" belong in the same sentence -- someone who reads their user page history might be put off by it. On the other hand, there's probably a good reason to cite the name of the program being used. I'm just throwing this out there as something to think about; maybe users of VandalProof can come up with arguments for or against it. --Elkman 18:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

See the section immediately above this one ;-). AmiDaniel (talk) 18:29, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I guess I wasn't reading carefully enough. That's what happens when I try to do two things at once. --Elkman 18:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Your log-in request failed.

Was approved earlier today, thought the issue might be the first character of my username being upper/lower case... tried every way but no go. Have cookies enabled in IE and cleared my Monobook.js of everything... still unable to login. I get the Welcome To VandalProof screen and after the retrieveing user list, I get the above error. Help! --Jamott 23:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Try it again now. VP has problems with redlinked userpages that I haven't fixed yet. It's not a common problem so I haven't really had much initiative. I've now created your userpage as a redirect to your talk page; feel free to tag it with db-owner if you'd rather it remain a redlink, though you then won't be able to use VandalProof for the time being. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:39, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Working now. Thanks for the quick fix and great program!--Jamott 23:48, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The same thing still happens to me. Before the system was changed I would get that but would at least be able to have tags come up when I would go to talk pages but now nothing seems to work. The tags don't come up, can't view recent changes, I press rollback and nothing happens. I really don't know what it is I am doing that is wrong.

Your log-in request failed.

You might have entered an incorrect username. Currently, your username is set to Jersey Devil. You can change this at anytime from "Set Username" under the File menu.

You might not be correctly logged into Wikipedia with that username. Try logging into Wikipedia within the current browser.

You might not be on the list of authorized users. Please post a request for permission to use VandalProof on the VandalProof talk page. If you have received a message stating that you have already been added to the list, please contact the user who posted that message.--Jersey Devil 03:20, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to respond here--I've been playing around with using my new admin tools and haven't put much thought into VandalProof. Okay, let's try some of the more broad problems people have had and see if we can wittle it down. 1) Confirm that you're using the monobook skin. 2) Click the "try logging into Wikipedia" link, log in as you usually would within VP's browser, and be sure to check "Remember Me." 3) If that fails, check your IE cookie settings and see if there's anything strange. You may want to open up a stand-alone instance of IE and make sure you can log into Wikipedia and stay logged in while you edit. AmiDaniel (talk) 01:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalproof to broad based?

Is the current edition of vandal proof too broad based? it removed a legitimate warning from a page i edited about a user link on the page. i think the scope of vandalproof should be used more limitedly and used more cautiously and sparingly. Vandalproof is putting of people from expressing gueniune but controversial peices of evidence for fear of it being classed as vandalism. Lucy-marie 15:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

You shouldn't be editing another users userpage. If Cobaltbluetony wanted to warn people about it he would have put it there (Most likely he didn't because it is a joke, it is meant to trick people). ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 16:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

This comment is in reference to this [2].I can understand the concern of seeing Vandal Proof, but if one follows the link they can see it's a program. Yanksox 15:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Trouble installing

Hi there, whenever I try to install Vandal Proof (I have just been added to approved users), it comes up with the message Component TABCTL32.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid. Help, please? LBM 19:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Install the zip file as well, for some reason it was not on the download page... Prodego ^talk 19:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

It says at the start of the page that the above version has a bug on it - should I proceed? LBM 19:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Now you need to download the 1.2.1 exe and put it into that folder. ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 20:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! LBM 20:08, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Running under wine

i want to state just for the record that vandalproof runs beutifully on linux using wine and the foss toolset winetools [3]. my platform is centos 4.2 with wine 0.9.2. frymaster 15:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, this is surprising but certainly not unwelcome news. Perhaps you could post a full, from scratch tutorial in your userspace if you have the time? Lots of us would probably make use of it. Thanks. --Xyrael ^T 16:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

i have a short rundown on my talk page frymaster 17:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

new account.

I was wondering if it's possible for me to start a new account and to use that account in VandalProof. I want to help out, but now I'm getting personally attacked on my userpage, which is a total pain. Also, I might like to keep all of my anti-vandalism contributions separate from my other contributions. - Zepheus 18:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

You certainly can. Just create it, post here, and if you're already approved from here and can prove so by editing that new user's userpage, I'll be happy to let you in on both. Thanks. --Xyrael ^T 19:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I created my "sockpuppet" account. It's under Dr. Zaret (a name I got off of a bowling ball). You say I should simply edit the user page for that? Okay. Should I also list myself on the Awaiting Approval list? - Zepheus 20:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Alternately I could just semi-protect your userpage for you. Prodego ^talk 23:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I would rather have the second account (if that's okay), so that I can keep my long list of vandalism reversions separate from my other edits. - Zepheus 23:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Prodego ^talk 23:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

If you want to prove that somebody is your sockpuppet, when you create it, go here and create it while still logged on and link to the user-creation log like I did for my sockpuppet, User:GeorgeMoney VandalProof --GeorgeMoney ^T·C 00:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I have already been approved with my new name. If there is a problem with this, I can delete my secondary account and re-create per your means. I apologize for not knowing procedure (but that's why I asked), and attempted to do things as I was told. - Zepheus 00:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, cool method GM! --Xyrael ^T 16:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Another assistance request

Well, I'm back. I've downloaded the 1.21 version of VandalProof to a computer where I have admin rights. My IE browser is set to accept all cookies. Despite all this, when I try to login in with VandalProof is throws out a yellow box stating "Your log-in request failed." The funny thing is that under this yellow box it says, "Welcome to VandalProof, Alabamaboy!" Any tips on what the problem might be here? Thanks,--Alabamaboy 00:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I should add that I'm using the monobook skin, as requested. I've also tried clicking "logging into Wikipedia" from within VandalProof (even though I was already logged in with IE) and the browser is set to remember my username and password.--Alabamaboy 00:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, let me think a minute. Prodego ^talk 00:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Is your username spelled correctly? Try reseting it by opening VandalProof, selecting File -> Set username, and typing your username. Then log in through VandalProof. Prodego ^talk 00:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm good. I restarted my computer and then tried the login and it worked. Not sure what the problem was but that solved it. Thanks, --Alabamaboy 00:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Works for me! Prodego ^talk 00:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Now that I'm actually using the program, I have to say it kicks butt. Great work putting this program together. Best, --Alabamaboy 01:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Well of course its great. Best. Program. Evah. ILovePlankton 01:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Edit

I don't know what section to put this in, but I saw a weird edit summary, "Thanking user for voting in my RFA using VandalProof". How do you do that? --GeorgeMoney ^T·C 03:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, vandalproof is now being used as a spam notification tool. Don't have a clue... sorry!Eagle talk 03:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

You probably shouldn't use it for this (although I have myself!), but it's pretty easy. Just load up the page, and then click "Notify All Contributors." Pretty self explanatory. I would, however, like to note that the feature was developed for notifying 1-5 editors, and it doesn't conform to the bot policy when used to notify much more than that and could result in your being blocked. When I use it for mass notification, I tweak the timer to post every 30-60 seconds so as to avoid being blocked myself. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I think he was wondering how to change the edit summary that it provides, and yes I was warned for using it in that way. ILovePlankton 04:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

can't use VandalProof

I have been told that I am now authorized to use VandalProof, but when I try to use it, I get an error message saying that I am not logged in. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Thanks. --Ixfd64 20:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Try these suggestions.

• Make sure that your version of IE is 4.0 or higher.
• Make sure that you have cookies enabled in IE.
• Make sure that you have your user name in VP matching EXACTLY to your username in Wikipedia.
• If these don't work, tell us your operating system and more detials on the error that you are getting.

Good LuckEagle talk 01:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I've tried these things, and it still doesn't work. I've installed VandalProof on another computer, and it doesn't work either. :( --Ixfd64 00:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandal Proof struck dooonnnn

Well, this is my first ever bizzarre event w/ VP. Everytime I load VP up, it will load me up but once I get the "Welcome to VP, Yanksox..." message, VP will just crash. I don't know if its a windows issue or a VP issue. Blah. Thanks for listening. Yanksox 22:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

nvm, it works. Yanksox 23:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Installation question

If I should choose to regester, and download the software, would the installation edit my PC's registry files or not? --GW_Simulations_{|User Page | Talk | Contribs | E-mail} 20:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes it would have to other wise your computer would not know what to do with the files. ILovePlankton 20:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Just don't install it. Download the exe; that's all that's needed. --mboverload@ 20:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

The only modifications made to the registry are initializing the few dll's and ocx's you need--if these are already installed, then the setup will essentially do nothing except copy the exe to the specified destination. The exe itself makes absolutely no modifications to the registry; all data and everyting is stored in ASCII text files in the program's parent directory. I'm really paranoid about anything that modifies registry, so no need to worry. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Monobook.js

Why when I look at my monobook.js via clicking on it in history does it look okay, but when I click on the user page tab it looks like something is wrong with it? Does this need fixed or is it fine the way it is? Earlier today I added script for Interiot's counter tool to it, but neither that tool nor VP seem to like having both scripts in one file, so I removed the Interiot script from the file and that's when I noticed this problem. How should I set up the two different scripts? Rlevse 02:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, the problem was that I'd copied the "pre" tags when I dropped in the monobook code. Rlevse 21:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Impressed!

I just wanted to leave a note saying how impressed I am at the high level of intelligence this bot has! Whoever created it, and whoever runs it, you did and are doing a great job! I have seen the bot fix many cases of vandalism! Congrats! Keep up the good work! --Andy Blak 21:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

• It's actually not a bot (robot), more of a plug in users use to fight vandals. AmiDaniel created and maintains it. Rlevse 22:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Login failure

Hello! I downloaded what appeared to be the latest version from the link on the Vandalproof page. The .exe properties said that it was version 1.2.0.0 and I received a dialog box telling me that I mustn't use this version but the latest version instead. I deleted that .exe and downloaded the .exe on its own, renamed it as a .exe in my vandalproof directory and started it up. Now I can't logon as happened with version 1.1, although I can login to WP through the right-hand pane. I have also deleted the previous version of Vandalproof (1.1) just in case that was intefering with the newer one.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  17:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• aeropagitica, look for VandalProof 121.exe on the download page. You need version 1.2.1. Bye --Starionwolf 03:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Name Change

I recently changed my username from User:TBC to User:Tree Biting Conspiracy. For a while though it wasn't a problem, as I was somehow still able to access VandalProof user and moderator tools using my new username [4]. However this no longer works, so any suggestions?--☆TBC☆ (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 00:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I approved your new username, so you are good to go. My guess is that you were still able to use VP until your cache was cleared, then the program saw you were not, in fact, TBC. Prodego ^talk 00:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Note: I can't give you mod status though, only AmiDaniel can do that. So you should be able to use VP, but not the mod tools. Prodego ^talk 00:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

vandalproof install and filenames - small suggestion

I've rewritten the download/install section for you, hopefully more clear now.

Suggestion

I have the following suggestion on filenames: Don't have the executable download as a ".EXE". Instead, have it download as a ZIP file containing an EXE.

Rationale

You want users to get the .EXE with the correct name to overwrite the one in "C:\program files\vandalproof", without having to rename, so their existing start menu shortcuts work. So the .EXE should just be named "VandalProof.exe".

Then, having it download in a zip file means you can name the zip "VandalProof_Update_1.21.zip" so users can tell what version it contains, since the .exe now doesn't identify that.

I think this will help a lot of users. FT2 (Talk) 20:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it looks fine to me. I unfortunately have not gotten around to writing the setup file for this release yet, as I have with every other version, but hopefully will with 1.3 or the 1.2.2 patch I'm planning on releasing soon. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Issue with Recent Changes - new user

Hopefully someone can help on this. Program's setup, updated to V 1.2.1, logs in ok, loads admin lists + displays recent contribs, navigates through wikiepdia etc... with no errors. The issue is that Nothing shows up in the Recent Changes no matter what options I select. What am I doing wrong here ? Peripitus (Talk) 09:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Likely this: You need to disable Enhanced Recent Changes from your Wikipedia preferences. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you - I remember reading that in the FAQ but the grey cells don't seem to be working today. Working wonderfully now !- Peripitus (Talk) 11:14, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Report sockpuppett

How do I report a malicious or sneaky sockpuppett account? Rlevse 16:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Go to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets--☆TBC☆ (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 19:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof freezes/crashes.

I was using VP on my mom's computer for a while without fail, because my own was out of commission. However, now that I am using my own, it almost always crashes or freezes within the first 5 or so minutes of use, if not immediately. My own computer is a bit slower and older than my mom's, hers being a 833mhz p3, mine is a 567mhz celeron. Other than that, they're fairly similar, they both run WinXP, etc. The only other difference that i can think would cause it to mess up is that I have a wireless internet connection that is not very stable at all (in fact, as I was typing this, the connection went out.) --Evan Seeds (talk) 21:34, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof lock

What do you think of either of these as an alternative to the current VandalProof lock:

• 
  Current
• 
  First suggestion
• 
  Third suggestion

—Mets501 (talk) 02:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I much prefer the current lock (at this resolution). On the 1st suggestion, I can barely make out any text (and even then it's only cause I know it says VandalProof). On the 2nd, I read it at that resolution as "andalproof". The current one, though, I can read just fine. I like the font on the 1st suggestion at full res though. --james_{(lets talk)} 03:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• File:Vanyank.JPG

How about this? It took me weeks to made. Yanksox ^(talk) 03:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm crazy, and no I'm not suggesting we don't like to run. We just dislike running after vandals. Yanksox ^(talk) 03:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not going to comment on the images myself as I don't want to influence opinion on the matter; however, I would like to point out that I've incorporated the current VP lock logo into my personal miniature test Wiki, found here and am going to incorporate it into the software soon as well. So, if you guys decide upon another logo, please let me know so I can update the wiki and the app. AmiDaniel (talk) 01:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

CURRENT lock. I precisely agree with james. Rlevse 01:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. We'll keep it as it is. —Mets501 (talk) 21:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

user contributions

For some reason I cannot view user contributions in VP. When I type the user name and click the update button, nothing happens. Any idea what the problem might be? 01:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

no more comparisons

VP no longer shows me changes between article revisions. Instead, it takes me to the article. I have to click on history and select the revisions in order to see the changes. Is there any way to fix this? 01:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Please see the big yellow box on the welcome screen when you start VP. I'm working on a patch. AmiDaniel (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I did not read the entire box when it first appeared. Sorry! 01:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

VP Patch is Now Available

Please download version 1.2.2 from the main page. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! It works fine on my computer. 05:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Awesome and fast job, Daniel! Rlevse 10:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Global whitelist/blacklist

What is VandalProof doing when you merge your local whitelist/blacklist into the global whitelist/blacklist or vice versa? It's really slow on my computer (often taking over a minute) —Mets501 (talk) 21:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

oooh. i wouldn't want a global colourlist to be mandatory. i keep certain folks in my black list not because their habitual vandals but because i want their edits to leap out at me. --frymaster 21:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I have a bad array sort rourtine; I'm working on fixing it. There is nothing mandatory about the global WL/BL, and you can also uncheck users that you don't want added to the list. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks. —Mets501 (talk) 20:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

VP in Linux

Yes I have done it, if you want to do the same you can ask me via e-mail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VandalKilla (talk • contribs) 01:34, 22 June 2006 I have made a tutorial which explains the basic steps involved in making it work in linux http://vplinux.cjb.net/ I haven't checked this with AmiDaniel though, I would do it on irc but I was blocked for flooding which was an accident and then I wasn't properly warned (plus I forgot my ritalin) VandalKilla 09:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure this won't be a problem - I'll add it to the homepage. Thanks. —Xyrael _{/ 20:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)}

Updating Stats, Log, and Comments page

Just a small problem I'm having, and it's probably because I'm doing it wrong. When I click on Update VandalismStats, Update VandlismLog, and Update VandalismMistakes buttons, i hear internet explorer browse to 2 pages, but none of my Vandalism userpages are being updated, although it did work the first time. I'm not sure of what I'm doing wrong/not doing/misunderstanding so any guidance would be appreciated. Cheers, TheJC ^Talk_{Contributions} 02:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Feature

Put in a link to WP:AIV. That would be really nice. GangstaEB EA 02:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

There's a menu-item Report to AIV under User tools, although I've never had to use it. TheJC ^Talk_{Contributions} 03:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The report to AIV button is great - it gives you a box to fill in your reason, and then adds it to the list. It even checks that the vandal hasn't already been reported by someone else! —Xyrael _{/ 20:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)}

1.3

When does version 1.3 come out? GangstaEB EA 19:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Soon! That's all the information that AD has given us for now, because he's still tweaking with it and is currently on a semi-wikibreak for medical issues. Thanks. —Xyrael _{/ 20:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)}

Programming

What is this programmed in? Visual Basic? I could help, considering I'll be able to learn how to program in the language of my choice in about 2 weeks. GangstaEB EA 20:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

not sure what to call it

I have to download it from a mirror, for some reason downloading it from the place AmiDaniel provides never works. ILovePlankton 16:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed from list?

I seem to have been removed from the approved list, in addition to another user... Any reason for this? Perchance a mistake, although I'd like to be notified:P HawkerTyphoon 17:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Unable to log in?

Hello I have tried the help stuff but I seem unable to login?

--Charlesknight 22:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Fixed thanks to the help of a masked Mod on a white horse.

--Charlesknight 22:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

== Error messages ==

The error messages in VP are caused by User javascript that is not compatable with Internet Explorer. Any user that uses Firefox as their primary browser and IE only for VandalProof can put

if (navigator.product == 'Gecko' )
{
 ...current javascript...
}

in their User:UserName/monobook.js file, and it will make VandalProof run without script errors and will not affect WP browsing in Firefox. —Mets501 (talk) 22:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

How about the other way around? Because I also use Safari, Konqueror, etc. etc. and I'm sure others do as well. So how could I include all those browsers yet exclude MSIE? --M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 01:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Not sure about the other way around. You could try experimenting though. Try 'MSIE', 'Internet Explorer', 'Microsoft', etc. in place of 'Gecko'. —Mets501 (talk) 20:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

If you're using any version of Opera (and set it to identify as Opera browser) the following code should prevent JavaScript errors in VandalProof, although any customisations (such as extra tabs, popups, etc) will not be displayed in VandalProof nor Internet Explorer. As with the Firefox version above, put this in your User:UserName/monobook.js file:

if (navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('opera') + 1)
{
 ...current javascript...
}

I don't know of a way to simply block only internet explorer from processing some javascript - I'm by no means an expert in javascript (don't even know how to do an OR statement in javascript :P) - however I have tested this and it appears to work, and VandalProof appears to have sped up since it don't have to process the Javascript. TheJC ^Talk_{Contributions} 03:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Untested since I'm on Mac OS X at the moment, but

if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('msie') == -1 ) {
  //current javascript
}

should work. Untested though as I said. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 03:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

james _{// bornhj}'s suggestion does prevent javascript on WP from loading in Internet Explorer (and therefore VandalProof). This doesn't stop javascript from running in the browsers I've tested it in: Opera, K-meleon, and Firefox. I'm going to guess that this will therefore work in all browsers that don't identify as Internet Explorer. TheJC ^Talk_{Contributions} 07:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

More appropriate

Would this be more appropriate:

VANDALPROOF!

-D :-D :-) :=) :=D Gang staEB• ice slides) 12:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

He He!!! Yes, if this will make the vandals go away, I say that we use it. Just kidding. FellowWikipedian 18:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

software manual

Do you have a VandalProof manual? --Bigtop (tk||cb|em|ea) 23:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

In general

I'm having trouble handling vandalism-or-not situations, and sometimes, I get "mistaked" messages. Also, I want to get some tips on how to use VandalProof easier. Could you please reply me if you have good answers? Thanks. --Bigtop (tk||cb|em|ea) 06:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding VandalismStats for VP

Hi, I've just noticed that every time I reboot and start up VP, my vandalism stats go back to 0.

I was just wondering if that was supposed to happen, and also I went to see my [My VandalismStats] and I happened to notice that it said that I had only reverted 2 edits of vandalism, when in reality it should be around 6 now. Then when I clicked 'update log' on VP, it changed the vandalism stats back to 0. If you need more specifics, just post to my Talk Page

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks!

Nishkid64 15:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

There's some .txt files that are in the same directory as the exe, check they're there.--Andeh 17:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Can anyone tell me why when I update my VP stats it works but the VP log doesn't? The update says it has run but it acutally doesn't modify the file on wiki. Rlevse 18:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Warning messages

Hi, I've recently been testing vandal proof (see my contribs) and noticed it gives unique warnings on users talk pages. Is there anyway to set it to use default warnings that are on WP:VAND? Like a setting to adjust. Thanks.--Andeh 10:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You can customize all of the buttons as described at User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof_Help#Customizing_the_Buttons, and there is also a "Rollback Cutsom" button which will allow you to post custom messages and select from a lengthy list of all the common templates (feel free to let me know if I missed any, and I'll add them in!). AmiDaniel (talk) 22:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Make VandalProof for Mac OS X!

If you could make a version of this for Mac OS X, that would be very swell. I would certainly use it. That is all. Thanks! Grandmasterka 05:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Only if it's convenient... I could just wait and get the new system (and a new computer) which can also run Windows. But that won't be released for a while yet. Grandmasterka 05:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

What about Boot Camp. Also, it is hard as it's in Visual Basic. Computerjoe's talk 09:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Also users the Internet Explorer web components which are Windows only. Although REALbasic does look a little promising for any future ports.... --james_{(lets talk)} 09:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

all of these port requests require a total rewrite and a tremendous amount of developer time and effort! i agree that ie is a mediocre web component... but the application was written in a convenient language (vba) on an available and popular platform (win/ie) and it's a bit late to do a u-turn now. having said all that, i think that if anyone is actually mulling a rewrite or writing a multi-platform version of vandalproof, the choice of language would be xul. it's cross-platform, is based on mozilla and uses javascript as its main language (allowing the plundering of existing code). just a thought. frymaster 12:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Also needs an IntelMac, something I don't have. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 03:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I had an offer some time ago from someone interested in rewriting VandalProof for OS-X; however, I haven't followed up with him recently. As frymaster said, making VP run on OS-X would pretty much require a complete and total rewrite. If I knew this project was going to grow and grow as it has, I likely would have written VP in C#, which I believe is supported by OS-X; however, it's now a bit too late. Given that, in the 1.3 dev version, my largest of thirteen modules is about 6,000 lines long, we're talking a quite tremendous undertaking for anyone who chooses to "translate" it, and undertaking equivalent to that of writing originally. Anyway, I wish I could, but I'm afraid not. AmiDaniel (talk) 21:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

man, 6000 lines of vb is a horrifying thought! i think that the future lies in a variety of tools that cross-polinate ideas, rather than in trying to convert vp or a clone thereof into a multi-platform piece of wares, or making an osx-only thing. since popups and other javascript-based tools already exist, this is probably the way to go. not that i'd ask amidenial to go through to the effort of doing all that. ad has made a fine piece of software that targets 90-ish per cent of users out there (more if you consider running vp under wine as i do). so... the real question this thread needs to ask is: is anyone willing to step up to write a vandal-tracking app that runs on osx or is platform agnostic? -- frymaster 21:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

AmiDaniel, have you thought about REALbasic? I'm not very good with programming and stuff, but the makers advertise REALbasic as a good cross-platform alternative. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 01:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

while i personally have nothing against realbasic, i think it's problematic for several reasons:

1. it requires a rewrite. that's a lot to ask of ami!
2. it has a small user base. it's easier to get contributors for projects written in languages that are more popular
3. the language is not open. i don't know what ad's feelings are about licensing on this front (vb isn't open either) but this may be an issue if he decides to port to another platform

--frymaster 16:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

250 mainspace edits

Question regarding the 250 mainspace edits treshold for getting access to VP; how can I see how much mainspace edits I have withouth manually counting my contribs? And what counts towards this figure? Real additons to articles or effort put into reverting vandalism? Thanks. Intinn 22:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Check out WikiProject edit counters. Every mainspace edit counts; whether it's major or minor, reverting vandalism or additions to articles. --james _{// bornhj (talk)} 03:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Cheers! Intinn 10:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I only have like 200 mainspace edits and I can use VP... Fredil Yupigo 20:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

It is only a guideline for VP moderators. We like to see a track record of new applicants edits before we allow them to use VP. This keeps the tool out of the hands of vandals. Hope this helps! Eagle talk 20:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

User login problem

Hi,

I was made a user of VP by User:Eagle_101 back in May. I now find myself unable to login to VP (the latest version). Can anyone shed any light on the subject.

Regards, Chrisd87 23:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I request that any other VP mod please ADD THIS USER, as I currently cannot add users due to a bug (unresolved). Eagle talk 20:22, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Autosigning

Is there any way to prevent VP from autosigning? I know it's a weird request, but if there is, I want to know... Fredil Yupigo14:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Open up your CustomButtons.txt file in the same directory as you have VandalProof installed. Then append to the end of each template message "##NOSIG". You can then add custom signatures, etc. before that. AmiDaniel (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. So should it look something like the following?

<ROLLBACK 4>
Rollback {{test4}}
{{subst:User:Fredil Yupigo/test4|%P}} [[User:Fredil Yupigo|Fredil Yupigo]] ~~~~~ ##NOSIG 

Fredil Yupigo 20:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks correct to me! Eagle talk 20:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)