User talk:Doremo

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Thanks but question[edit]

Hey Thanks for the fast cleanup regarding settlement names in article Austrian-Slovene clashes in Carinthia, I completely messed up which language comes first in such circumstances. However I am wondering, why is Radlje ob Dravi's post-1952 name used, wouldn't it be more correct to use "Marenberg" instead? Mrwho00tm (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Marenberg would be fine for avoiding anachronism. I made the corrections relatively quickly; there are probably other details I missed. Thank you for writing the article. Doremo (talk) 17:01, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hyphen vs en-dash[edit]

Please review MOS:HYPHEN to understand why I reverted your changes to Conte di Cavour-class battleship.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:38, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

You'll have to be more specific to clarify what part of MOS:HYPHEN you mean; Conte di Cavour–class battleship is a compound (phrasal) attributive in which the first element is itself a compound, structurally equivalent to Pulitzer Prize–winning novel and other examples discussed at Dash#Attributive compounds. ("In English, the en dash is usually used instead of a hyphen in compound (phrasal) attributives in which one or both elements is itself a compound, especially when the compound element is an open compound, meaning it is not itself hyphenated.") As such, Conte di Cavour–class battleship, not Conte di Cavour-class battleship, is correct. Doremo (talk) 13:50, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I've never seen an en-dash used for compound ship names in any of my books, so I think that ships might be an exception to the normal rule. However, I'm gonna alert a copyeditor friend with access to this discussion and see if he can find out what the major style guides have to say.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:24, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
You can also consult § 6.85 of the Chicago Manual of Style (15th edition; the section number may be different in other editions) on this issue. Doremo (talk) 14:28, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
From what my friend tells me, the AP styleguide doesn't even bother to distinguish between dashes and hyphens and Chicago is less than clear on the issue. And given that your source is not part of WP:MOS, merely an article describing dashes, I think that you lack any standing to change an FA-class article that conforms to WP:MOS.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Chicago Manual of Style is quite clear on this issue, and it is also generally followed by better publishers, as far as I know. My "standing" is irrelevant. Doremo (talk) 17:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Then you fail to understand how WP:MOS works on Wikipedia. FA-class articles are required to conform to it down the last jot and tittle. The distinction between hyphens and en-dashes as in the case of Conti de Cavour-class battleship is not addressed there and so your changes do not follow the MOS. Please review MOS:HYPHEN as that's the section of the MOS that covers hyphen usage and you'll see that the article follows those rules. It's not like the article on dashes that you are using as your source which is merely descriptive. The MOS is prescriptive.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:33, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm not really interested enough in the particular topic to pursue it further. You're welcome to correct it later if you wish, or to amend MOS:HYPHEN to match your point of view. Doremo (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I am following MOS:Hyphen, your changes did not.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:04, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


Conversation moved to Talk:Boletus edulis Doremo (talk) 03:23, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Czech Republic/Czechia[edit]

Hi Doremo. I've reverted your change to the original because I raised this at the project talk page and the view seemed to be no mass reversions either way. If this really is an issue for you, let's discuss it there and reach a consensus. --Bermicourt (talk) 15:17, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Czechia is bizarre in English by any measure (here is one), as already discussed extensively at Talk:Czech Republic. You should obtain clear consensus from other editors involved in the topic area before insisting on the term. If Czechia becomes the dominant English term in the future some day, then you are welcome to use it. Doremo (talk) 16:11, 21 December 2014 (UTC)