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January 2015

Explanations are What I Need

Hi, I just saw you deleted the page "GoldKey" with the excuse it was advretising. GET OUT OF TOWN! That is advretising just as much as a page about Apple would be. Please explain yourself. -- Force4good (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

The entirety of the prose content of the article was "Goldkey is the way to share your data PRIVATELY. Exellent reviews have been recived from the public, as well as amazing press response." That's unequivocally a promotional message, not a substantive neutral description of a product or company. - Dravecky (talk) 00:51, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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January 2015

Information icon You have no right to accuse me of representing a PAC. That is disruptive, as is your wholesale attacks on my AfD nominations. Legacypac (talk) 13:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Your flawed, untruthful AfD nominations are the real disruption. I'm not "accusing" you of anything regarding your user name, merely pointing out that making broad assumptions based on them can be misleading. Thank you for solidly illustrating my point. - Dravecky (talk) 13:21, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
@Legacypac: You should definitely read the "Don't template the regulars" rule. That goes double for admins, which Dravecky is. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:25, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't know this editor/Admin from Jack. All I know is he is copypasting crap on my AfDs and making no sense. And wrong template - I'll remove that. Legacypac (talk) 13:29, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Well ... for one thing, Neutralhomer, WP:DTTR is an essay, not a "rule;" you really don't want to mislead people into thinking you're citing a genuine policy or guideline. For another, if I may cite an essay in return -- that one being WP:BOOMERANG, I would not in Dravecky's shoes dare to call anyone's nominations "untruthful" ... not when he used the same cut-and-paste "Keep as subject meets the verifiability and notability standards for WP:GNG" on eight AfDs in the course of just a few minutes (the last six in just eleven minutes), a span impossible to have made any review of the sources whatsoever. (For my part, in my own evaluation of those AfDs, I took a full hour on both reviewing the sources and searching for others.) In almost every case, the sources presented were primary and promotional, blogs, Twitter feeds, personal websites and the like. In a mere experienced editor, this level of dishonesty would be objectionable. In an admin, someone held to a higher standard, this is unacceptable. Ravenswing 16:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
My comments, each carefully crafted as a response to the copy/pasted, flawed nominations, were made after simple Google searches and a close review of the actual edit history of the articles in question. None of the articles the nominator claimed were mass-created by a "sock farm" were either mass-created or started by sockpuppets. I was attempting to assume good faith by calling the nominations untruthful instead of deliberate lies. - Dravecky (talk) 17:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm not as gullible as all of that. Your comments were identical throughout all of the AfDs save for IDing the name of the article creator and the date it was created, and showed no signs whatsoever of "careful crafting." You posted most of them within a span of 11 minutes, and the only alternative to having lied about checking for sources is a lack of competence in how to make such searches. I stick to my prior comment that this is unacceptable behavior in an admin, and amend that by saying that the more honorable path on your part should be less in the way of defensiveness of your indefensible action, and more in retracting your Keep comments and letting the matter drop. (I'm sure that apologizing for such behavior is out of the question.) Ravenswing 18:23, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Your beliefs are your own but my responses took more time to craft than the AfD nominations themselves. I described my process above in detail and accurately. Your insistence that I have something to apologize for when I'm pointing out flawed nominations based on false pretenses is curious. - Dravecky (talk) 18:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


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