User talk:Indefatigable

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Silver Maple Leaf Award[edit]

A Barnstar!
The Silver Maple Leaf Award

For years worth of invaluble wikignoming of spelling, punctuation, and fact-checking on Canada-related articles. --Arctic Gnome (talkcontribs) 21:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hey thank you for tabling my edits, I am brand new to Wikipedia and greatly appreciate the upgrade of what I posted!! I only have to add another 2000 words for my history project on Louis Riel on to Wikipedia, do you have any topics by chance i should improve, or new ones that i could right about by chance? Theflashsaunders (talk) 20:54, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the recognition. The Louis Riel article itself is fairly mature; there's not to much left to add to it. But there are related articles that could be created or added to, such as details on Middleton's expedition, or details on the three columns he launched, from Qu'Appelle, Swift Current, and Calgary.

saw your IPA on Xá:ytem[edit]

I've been there (Mission's my other hometown, the other being Lillooet).....the guide pronounced it "Hah-it-em"; the colon isn't sfaik a glottal stop but it sounded like that to me; the first vowel in any case is a separate syllable from the 'y', it's not like "hay" as your IPA /ˈheɪtəm seems to indicate.Skookum1 (talk) 01:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I have hard "High-tem" but I don't think that's correct.Skookum1 (talk) 01:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I personally have never heard it said; all I had to go on was what I found with Google. But it does not surprise me that the site I found messed it up; so many people think they know how to explain in writing how to say something when they really have no idea. Your explanation makes a lot more sense and seems to relate to the orthography better. I will add a syllable break. Indefatigable (talk) 03:40, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
As often with native names that become names in English, what the Halqemeylem pronunciation is vs how it's come to be pronounced in English may be different; the function of the colon in Sto:lo makes that into an "ow" sound as indicated by an older spelling Staulo, more commonly it comes off as STAH-lo or, too often really, STOE-loe. Not an IPA guy as you can tell. What the colon does for the [a] here I don't know enough about Halqemeylem to know. In this case, the "HIGH-tem" might be the more usual pronunciation....maybe put both? I'm pretty sure our guide did it as you have now changed it too; but "HIGH-tem" might be a "more English" adapation of the pure-Halqemeylem?Skookum1 (talk) 14:57, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I've been trying to find a soundfile on any site connected to the museum; no luck so far but did find this really cool flash-driven virtual voice narration though.....if you go into the longhouse and out the back there's more point-and-read items highlightable....but no soundfile so far. Skookum1 (talk) 15:54, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

IPAs for items on Stawamus[edit]

Hi, the pronunciation difference of what had been titled Sta7mes and the other items which are derived from it is very marked, as noted on the first RM on what is now titled Stawamus (village) (very unsatisfactorily) by the original creator, OldManRivers, who explains the village name is STAH-wa-mus (actually STAH-a-mus with the sutble glottal stop that is a feature of the proper use of the name; the common English usage for the mountain and the river etc is "Sta=WA-mus". That 19th Century renditions of native terms used a /w/ or an /h/ for a glottal stop were very common - another example in the same indigenous-title category is Esla7an, which was rendered "Eslahan" and "Ustlawn" in the days before a true symbol for the glottal stop in English was come up with; the /7/ has been around in BC English since the 1960s....; these are actually two separate sets of titles, blurred by the older spelling which is still in use by government, companies and the local not-very-friendly-to-natives local newspaper; all that aside, the pronunciation difference should be on that dab page, and on the village article.Skookum1 (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)