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Are you available for a source check at the Sleeping Dogs FAC [1] URDNEXT (talk) 22:21, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure URDNEXT, I'll take a look through it now. I might do a copyediting review tomorrow morning if you'd like? Jaguar 22:23, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Absolutely I would. Thank you! URDNEXT (talk) 22:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
No problem! I'm going to go through the sources now and will leave some more comments tomorrow. I have a good feeling this will pass in the end, you three have put a lot of effort into this one! Jaguar 22:30, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! My day started off really badly, but I'm hopeful it will end amazingly well. URDNEXT (talk) 22:32, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Ugh, I know the feeling. I've had a bad month! Anyway I have left my initial source review at the FAC, it doesn't seem very extensive however those were initially the ones that looked serious. I will leave a full copyediting review tomorrow! Hope things get better. Regards Jaguar 22:50, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
We just have to remember that things always get better, doesn't matter how bad they are. Tomorrow may be a much better day! And thanks again for the source review, I can't wait for the copy editing review tomorrow! URDNEXT (talk) 22:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

By the way, is there any way you can write alternate text for the design and characters images? I tried doing it, but I can't find how to write it. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 23:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

GA Review - British Raj[edit]

Hi Jaguar, I've left comments on the GA review page for British Raj. - Lemurbaby (talk) 02:18, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Flappy Bird[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Flappy Bird you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SNUGGUMS -- SNUGGUMS (talk) 22:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Guess who's back[edit]

Jaguar is back! Tell a friend. URDNEXT (talk) 20:52, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Haha that's a good one! Thanks for the welcome. How have you been? How's the Sleeping Dogs FAC holding? I heard it needs a copyediting? Jaguar 22:42, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
I've been kinda well, thanks for asking. The Sleeping Dogs FAC has garnered two opposes in the last couple of days due to its "clunky" prose. I have fortunately enough to get two copy editors (Blackmane and John) to work on the article. Hopefully they'll get the job done. Just by the way, can you do a little copy editing on downloadable content? I know the other editors are working on the page, but John is gonna handle development, while Blackmane hasn't even gotten to Synopsis yet. URDNEXT (talk) 22:48, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
That's good to hear! Yeah sure I'll handle the downloadable content in the morning. It's good to see the amount of progress made on the article in a matter of days. The prose could use with some tightening. I'm confident the FAC will eventually pass, we just need to give it time. Jaguar 22:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! And yeah, I'm hoping the article passes. I starting to get more confident now that you, Blackmane and John began to copy edit the article. FA, here we go! (Hopefully) URDNEXT (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
FAC's are generally a challenging process, I've had great difficulty with them in the past before... Don't worry, we'll get this thing done! Jaguar 22:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
I hope so. URDNEXT (talk) 23:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

@URDNEXT: I've copyedited the downloadable content section - I think that it was mainly just a syntax problem. Anyway the sentence structure does look better and the prose flows well, but there is a minor content issue with the last paragraph, "He then apprehends the cult leader during the climax" - I had to guess that this was Shen? I have never played the game so I wouldn't know! Anyway thanks to the efforts of the other copyeditors the article is looking in much better shape! Jaguar 22:25, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and URDNEXT, I don't know if you've seen it but there is a discussion on Sleeping Dogs' talk page about what form of English should be used in the article. Might be worth having a look? Jaguar 23:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for warning me about the discussion as I don't know how, but I never saw it before. Also, you guessed it right, it is Shen who apprehends the cult leader, so don't worry about that. You did a wonderful copy edit to the article, so thanks again for that! URDNEXT (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, but I felt like I could have done a lot more though. Is there anything else you need help on in the article? Any more copyediting or syntax sorting? Jaguar 21:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I reccomend you take a look at nomination page to see if there's anything from the reviewers that wasn't adressed. But more specifically, I have added some new info on the XP system's effect on gameplay. it would be awesome if you could copy edit it a bit to see if the sentence flows better in the prose. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 21:16, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Sure, I'll copyedit anything I can find. It's good to see the amount of progress made. I currently have another GAN open which I have to deal with so I'll take a look at Sleeping Dogs in the morning (or in a few hours as my insomnia helps). Jaguar 21:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Sounds great, do it the way you prefer. Do you have an idea of how long it's gonna take for the article to get promoted? Like tomorrow? URDNEXT (talk) 21:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
It depends on when a consensus can be reached. Usually one of the two FAC co-ordinators assess the comments and the article - it is then when a consensus can be achieved. It also depends on the number of supports versus opposes. It might be worth letting some of the people who initially opposed to take another look at the progress made, and see what they think? Jaguar 21:35, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Alright, that's what we're gonna do, see if the opposers change their minds. I'm hopeful they will, as the prose is flowing a lot better now. URDNEXT (talk) 21:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

@URDNEXT: I was going to leave a message on your talk page but I didn't want to clutter it. I've just seen the new comments/opposes left at the FAC and Blackmane's subsequent departure. But don't give up hope yet - what do you need help with in the article? You still have me, yourself, Tezero and Czar. I could copyedit anything that could have been missed out? The FAC would still be salvageable. Also I saw your comment regarding that you would retire if the FAC failed, please understand, this happens all the time, and it's especially hard when you feel deeply attached to something. Wikipedia has brought me down a lot of times too, and if it's any consolation, I had almost 10,000 articles deleted in 2012 (and a flurry of abuse from admins) which led to my retirement for a year and a half. Please don't retire, we could still do this. Regards Jaguar 17:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for messaging me. I think I'll just do Sleeping Dogs, then go away for a couple of weeks from the site to refresh my head. Please join me and Tezero in his talk page where we are trying to figure out what to do. URDNEXT (talk) 17:28, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Flappy Bird[edit]

The article Flappy Bird you nominated as a good article has failed Symbol unsupport vote.svg; see Talk:Flappy Bird for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SNUGGUMS -- SNUGGUMS (talk) 06:22, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

GA Cup - September 2014 Newsletter[edit]

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Welcome to the GA Cup! In less than 72 hours, the competition will begin! Before you all start reviewing nominations we want to make sure you understand the following:

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Jumping Flash![edit]

Great work on Jumping Flash!. I am not on Wikipedia as much as I used to be, but thought you might like this article regarding the game's origins and its predecessor Geograph Seal. ~ Hibana 21:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Hibana! That's amazing - that might be all what it needs to get it to FA. I'll get to implementing some of that content in tomorrow morning. Regards Jaguar 21:37, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the GA review of Concealed shoes[edit]

Thanks for the GA review, much appreciated. Eric Corbett 22:21, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome, Eric. If you would like an more GAs done in the future I'm always here! Jaguar 22:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

GA Cup -Round 1 Newsletter[edit]

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As we move into the middle of Round 1, we wanted to report some of the lessons we've learned thus far, as well as announce a major rule change going into Round 2, which begins November 1. Remember, sign-ups for this year's Cup ends on September 15.

Thus far, we're very happy with the results of the competition. One of our major goals, reducing the long backlog at GAN, is well on the way to being accomplished, mostly due to the enthusiastic efforts of Jonas Vinther, who has earned over 250 points. Over 80 reviews have been made thus far. Thank you all for your efforts and for your part in making the GA Cup a success.

However, this is the inaugural year of the GA Cup, so there have been some unforeseen circumstances that have come up. One has been a glaring inadequacy with the rules, which the judges feel makes the competition unfair. As a result, there will be a major change in the rules, starting at the beginning of Round 2:

  • Your review must provide feedback/suggestions for improvement, and then you must wait until the nominator has responded and all issues/suggestions have been resolved before you can pass the article. Failure to follow this rule will result in disqualification.

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GA Cup Newsletter Correction[edit]

Hi everyone,

It was brought to the attention of the judges that there was an error in the newsletter sent out earlier today.

Sign-ups for the GA Cup will close on October 15, 2014, not September 15, 2014 (as mentioned in the newsletter).

Sorry for any confusion.

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GA Cup - Round 1 Newsletter #2[edit]

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Hello GA Cup competitors!

The judges have learned a great deal in this first part of the competition, and we appreciate your patience with us as we've figured out what works and what doesn't work. As we reported in our last newsletter, an inadequacy in the scoring system has been illuminated in the past 15 days, which has resulted in a major change in the rules. It has also resulted in one withdrawal.

To ensure fairness, we've decided to further increase the number of participants moving onto Round 2. Everyone who has reviewed at least one article will automatically be moved forward, and will be placed in pools. You have until October 29 to take advantage of this opportunity. It is our hope that this will make up for the unforeseen glitch in our scoring system.

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Hi Jag, I know you have a lot going on. Just wanted to leave a note that I think it's more important to not burn out than it is to be a GA Cup superhuman who reviews every feasible article. Not to insinuate anything, but to say that I appreciate your reviews and that I hope the GA Cup isn't too artificially stressful (and if it is, don't let it be) czar  14:39, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Czar, I completely understand what you mean... I currently have two reviews to do and once they're complete I'll give the GA Cup a long rest as I have other matters to deal with at the moment (I admit the timing could be better). I have until 1 November to get the nightmare uni stuff out of the way and once the reviews are done I'll give the GAN process a rest. I appreciate your concern, I should have your review done today hopefully! Regards Jaguar 14:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
You'll get through it. I'm not anxious about the review, so know that it's fine by me if you need to prioritize other things first czar  14:48, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't have anything to do today and it would be nice to give the transition process a break. I might do the review soon. Jaguar 14:58, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pokémon Black and White[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pokémon Black and White you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ProtoDrake -- ProtoDrake (talk) 17:02, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


You know you don't have to do |author=Last, First when you can do |last=Last|first=First right?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:05, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm just doing what is suggested in the GA review, ProtoDrake noticed that some author names had their first names first and their surnames last whereas it should all be the other way around. I don't know if there's some sort of script that allows you to do it quicker but I'm just doing it manually. Jaguar 18:07, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Well you don't need to make it "author=Last, First" when you can do "last=Last" and "first=First".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:19, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing that out, I'll use it in the future. Jaguar 18:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


Hey, I don't know how much time you have for such things, but would you mind dropping a review at Tony Hawk's Underground '​s FAC? It hasn't gotten any feedback in a couple weeks and I'd rather it not be archived for inactivity. Tezero (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I'll leave some comments at the FAC soon. I have until the end of October until things get tense, so I'll be fine for now. Jaguar 18:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pokémon Black and White[edit]

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Re: Lightning FA[edit]

I thought I aught to drop a reminder. Last week, you said you might look at the FA nomination for Final Fantasy XIII character Lightning for comments and/or an opinion on whether it passes or fails. I was wondering when you were planning to do that, as you said at the time that "I've got another FAC to look at so I'll leave some comments down on both of them tomorrow morning." I don't mean to nag, but I wanted to find out what the delay was about. --ProtoDrake (talk) 10:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah yes I'm sorry, I've been so busy outside Wikipedia lately that I haven't done many things I was supposed to do. I promise to leave comments at the FAC today, within a few hours... Again sorry for the delay. Jaguar 10:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
I've given a support to the FAC as I think all of the prose issues have been addressed. I could have left longer comments if I could have checked the references but the toolserver is still down! Jaguar 12:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for fixing my error. I was unaware of the TP/DB situation. Usually my confusion dissipates after my morning coffee but today the java must not have taken :-) I left Dr B a note apologizing as well. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:02, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

That's absolutely fine! I didn't know Tibetan Prayer was another account until a few weeks ago (I can't remember what I was doing then). Regards :P Jaguar 18:04, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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GA Cup - Round 2[edit]

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Greetings, GA Cup competitors!

Wednesday saw the end of Round 1. Jaguar took out Round 1 with an amazing score of 238. In a tight race for second, Peacemaker67 and Ritchie333 finished second and third with 152 and 141 points, respectively.

Two users have scored the maximum five bonus points for article length (60,000 characters+). Anotherclown reviewed Spanish conquest of Yucatán (77,350 characters) and MrWooHoo reviewed Communist Party of China (76,740 characters). The longest review was by Bilorv who reviewed Caldas da Rainha. The review was approximately 22,400 characters which earned s/he two bonus points (20, 000 - 29, 999 characters).

In Round 1, 117 reviews were completed, making the first round of the GA Cup a success! A total of 86 articles were removed from the backlog during the month of October! We hope to see all remaining users fighting it out in Round 2 so we can lower the backlog as much as possible.

To qualify for the second round, one completed review was needed, which 28 users accomplished. Participants have been randomly put into 7 pools of 4; the top 2 in each pool will move onto Round 3. There will also be one wildcard. This means that the participant who comes in 15th place (all pools combined) will also move on. Round 2 will start on November 1 at 0:00:01 UTC and end on November 29 at 23:59:59 UTC. Information about Round 2 and the pools can be found here

Also, remember that a major rule change will go into affect starting on November 1, which marks the beginning of Round Two. Round 1 displayed a weakness in the rules, which we are correcting with this new rule. We believe that this change will make the competition more inherently fair. The new rule is: Your review must provide feedback/suggestions for improvement, and then you must wait until the nominator has responded and all issues/suggestions have been resolved before you can pass the article. Failure to follow this rule will result in disqualification. The judges will strictly enforce this new rule.

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Your GA nomination of British Raj[edit]

The article British Raj you nominated as a good article has failed Symbol oppose vote.svg; see Talk:British Raj for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Lemurbaby -- Lemurbaby (talk) 02:02, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


Interesting choice. Any reason? Tezero (talk) 12:36, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah haha, that's a poppy. It's for Remembrance Sunday and I guess it's the least I can do to show my respects around here. A few other users have had this on their userpages too in the past, I just thought I'd like to join in. Anyway, how's Indianapolis? Jaguar 12:44, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
I think I'm gonna get there (and leave) tomorrow. Luckily for the question, though, I go there all the time since my father's family lives there (my mother's is in NYC and... well, Eurasia). I'm not gonna lie, it's not my favorite city in the contiguous 48, but it's got a slightly friendly feeling about it. Very spread-out, like a poor man's Los Angeles. Unfortunately, I'm not well versed in the characteristics of UK cities, so I'm afraid I can't analogize further. Tezero (talk) 13:24, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
I understand what you mean, yeah! It would be nice to go to a wiki meetup, especially seeing some of the WP:VG members... As long as it's generally friendly and there's a lot to do there then it should be good. I would have loved to go really. Oh well, at least it's not in Albuquerque... Jaguar 14:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for your GA review of Mansoor Ijaz. I appreciate it very much Face-smile.svg §FreeRangeFrogcroak 15:14, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Jaguar 16:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Sonic 2[edit]

Question about ref formatting. Are we using the "website=...|publisher=..." format? You seem to have added those, while I've been removing them not knowing they were your additions, since most of the refs aren't formatted that way. I don't really care, though I usually simply use "publisher" for the website's name - I think that's the usual convention, though czar, 32W, and a few others use "publisher" for the website's owner and "work" for the website - but we should pick one style for each given article and stick with it. (We also need to find full citation information for the game guide, and individual pages for the manual.) Tezero (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't too sure Tezero - when applying refs I use "website" for the name of the actual website and "publisher" for the website's owner (if applicable). Ack, sorry if this has caused any disruption, what way do VG articles normally use them? I actually have the original in-game manual, will it be useful? Jaguar 21:08, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Normally (but certainly not always) "publisher" is just used for the website - honestly, it's probably just because this way's easier. I don't particularly mind either way, though. And I appreciate the offer (I grew up with Mega Collection for the GameCube, whose manual would also work, but that's back at my house) - but the entire manual's online here. Of course, if you'd like to go ahead and start applying it page-by-page where appropriate, be my guest; I've got a couple of other projects to be working on today. Oh, and I have this talk page watchlisted, so pinging me is optional, though still optimal if you want to make sure I see. Tezero (talk) 22:21, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Oh yeah that's fine, sure! I wasn't sure if you had my page watchlisted, sometimes I ping people to be on the safe side. I'll start applying the appropriate refs with the manuals (everything is online nowadays). Thanks for telling me about the "publisher" thing, I wasn't sure if there was a right way. And no rush with Sonic 2, I'll get to copyediting the whole article in the morning. Regards Jaguar 22:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
The functional difference between the work and publisher params is that work italicizes its contents. So if the cited source is a creative work that would be italicized (e.g., "online magazines, newspapers, and news sites with original content"), it would fit best in the "work" field. That leaves the usually optional "publisher" field for the site owner. czar  23:25, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Can't believe that after four years I've been doing it wrong! Thanks for clearing that one up, anyway, one more thing, would IGN need to be italicised? Jaguar 00:11, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Question of the hour. I try to follow what the source's Wikipedia page uses (unless it clearly meets the WP:ITALICS example I used above) at least in the prose, which would leave IGN unitalicized. The argument is that it's an agency like NBC News or a television station and not a creative work like a newscast or television show. I think there's some merit in that, as dirty as it makes me feel. At the same time, it's a publication published by Ziff Davis. So there's a bit of gray area, but I tend to leave IGN unitalicized in the prose and do work=IGN, publisher=Ziff Davis in the citation template. czar  00:42, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I suppose it's still technically a network (Imagine Games Network), so it would fall under those examples you given. But then again there is a small degree of ambiguity left in it... I note that most users leave it unitalicised. There should be a discussion about this, it's actually pretty interesting! Your wisdom is always appreciated, czar Jaguar 00:52, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

After spending some time with the page today, I think we can easily put it up at GAN as soon as we expand the Reception section and make the citation formatting consistent. Oh, and while I was playing my Steam version of the game yesterday to see if Tails still got into the special stages like Sonic does (I couldn't remember - turns out he does; there just isn't any Super Tails form in this game), I ended up playing all the way through Hill Top without noticing. Enchanting, isn't it? Tezero (talk) 21:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your efforts with the article, sorry I haven't edited it so much today as I've been busy. I'll get to expanding the reception and reworking the legacy section tomorrow (Sonic 2 does have a surprisingly big legacy, but I don't know if that's just the way I personally feel as I've been playing since when I was like, 5)! With a general cleanup and double checking with verifying the refs this should be GA ready. Do you want to have the honours in nominating it or doesn't it matter? Anyway I have to get up early tomorrow and drive to college for something, so I promise to finish all the work on the article tomorrow. Regards Jaguar 00:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Oh, the nominator doesn't really matter; if I do it, I'll just add your name to the GAN page. But yeah, I'm surprised how much attention Sonic 2 gets considering how little 3 and Knuckles do. Huh. Tezero (talk) 00:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Uh oh, my "quick drive" turned out to take the whole day. Anyway, I'm going to finish the work on Sonic 2 now, will let you know when it's complete and GA-ready. Jaguar 19:51, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Just informing you and Tezero that I'll be reviewing Sonic the Hedgehog 2 :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Was about to ask Tezero on what to do because it looks like that Indian IP is inactive. Jaguar 19:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Much appreciate what you did. And it goes to show how many editors watching Kubrick have also become annoyed with his vendetta. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks doc! Don't worry about it, I only did what had to be done, for the better of the community. Regards Jaguar 19:43, 18 November 2014 (UTC)