User talk:Pathoschild

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Note: Please use informative section titles that give some indication of the message (I'll rename uninformative titles). This page was last archived 23 April 2008 (archives index, last archive).

Sock tags

Is there a preferred way to tag socks? I know that the different templates have their different applications based on confirmed, suspected, etc. but more specifically:

1) Should a tag be place on both the user page and the usertalk page?

2) If yes, should the tags be different (I think that {{SockBlock}} doesn't add a cat, but I'm not sure - wondering if that should go on the talk page so as to avoid adding both the user page and the usertalk page to the cat)?

3) Should the talk page generally be blanked except for the tag as with indef blocked users?

4) Additionally, the template documentation doesn't suggest the tags are subst as other blocking tags are, shouldn't they be? Thanks.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 01:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

An additional thought: I've seen some people tag both pages and others move a tag from the talk page to the userpage, would it make any sense to redirect the talk page to the userpage for confirmed socks? Particularly in cases where the talk page gets locked too? Thanks.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 01:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Only one page should be tagged, to avoid redundant categorization. They're conventionally placed on the user page, since it fits that namespace's purpose (user is for describing users, user talk is for communicating with them), but it doesn't really matter which is used. I generally blank and redirect their user talk pages based on the idea of denying recognition and dissuading reputation, unless they contain important information we can't link to from the user page. —{admin} Pathoschild 05:32:01, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted sock talk pages, should these be restored or ignored?

More questions, the following threads refer to deletions of user talk pages for various socks of User:EddieSegoura. I've questioned the deletions and got a mildly "keep deleted" response from one of the deleting admins and a I thought this is how we did it from another. My thinking is that all of these should be restored based on what little I know of socks and all that I've had to learn about CAT:TEMP. But, these are all very experienced admins, so I thought I'd better ask for further guidance - rather than taking users up on "restore if you want feel strongly about it" type responses. Here are the relevant threads:

User_talk:MZMcBride#Deleted_temporary_userpage

User_talk:PhilKnight#Indef_tag_for_sock_talks

User_talk:Misza13#Deletion_of_sock_usertalk_page - no response yet

Thanks.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 02:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

We track sock puppets' user pages so we can easily find information for them, see user name patterns, and find material for checkuser. If their talk page doesn't provide any useful information, there's no need to keep it if the user page is already categorized. I usually redirect the talk page instead of deleting it, but deletion should be okay too. —{admin} Pathoschild 05:20:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

But deletion deprives non-admins of the information and makes it awkward to obtain for admins (no advancing between diffs, etc). Anyway, thanks for the advice; I'll let these lie and apply this process of blank and redirect the usertalk to the tagged userpage in the future myself.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 07:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I do agree though that If their talk page doesn't provide any useful information there is no point to restoring it (not much point to deleting it either to begin with). BTW, it seems this practice should be set down somewhere, maybe at WP:UW or some such place as a sort of best practice. I couldn't find any info on this which is why I came asking. Even the practice of posting block tags and blanking pages of indef blocked users is not set out anywhere except in a single paragraph at WP:UW that I can find. If you know of other resources, please let me know. Thanks for all the help.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 19:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Pathoschild, thanks for your help/advice on the user page issue. Oh yeah, and thanks for cleaning up my page! ;) --BelovedFreak 18:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Indefblockedip

Template:Indefblockedip has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. MBisanz ^talk 00:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Email

You have email!¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 21:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Pce3@ij.net

Hi Pathoschild - you probably don't remember this, but around Feb. 2007, you deleted the user page for User:Pce3@ij.net due to the fact that he was (and remains to be) an infinitely blocked user. If it is not too much trouble, I was wondering if you can check for me why this particular user was blocked - I have reasons to believe that User:Pce3@ij.net have since created three other accounts:

• User:Adaptron
• User:Ἀριστοτέλης
• User:Julie Dancer

Which might have some potential issues related to the contribution of a completely nonsense/false/hoax article titled optimal classification. Coincidentally, Pce3@ij.net has a history of such contributions at Wikia here.

Oh, and if you do look into this, please reply here instead of on my talk page). Thanks! --Jiuguang (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

As a follow up, another editor who was involved with Pce3 in the past has given me some comments regarding this user. I have since taken the article to AfD - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Optimal classification, and would appreciate your comments there. --Jiuguang (talk) 11:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Moksha Wikipedia--Global bots

Hello, Pathoschild. You placed info on using Global bots in Moksha Wikipedia. Thank you.

• No objections to Global bots. --Numulunj pilgae 14:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)